Custom procharger set-up for my truck ?????
#1
well since procharger does not make a kit for my truck i am planning on getting one of there smaller head units and making my own mount bracket/plate + intercooler and the whole shibang-
but i a probelm-
i went through and watche the install videos, and install pictures and saw that each ATI kit came with a HUGE mounting plate/bracket- i was wondering if that is really necessary- I plan on mounting mine on the passneger side right above the tensioner pulley and running the piping down to an intercooler and back up to through where the stock intake goes
so main concern is- do i need to fab up a massive mounting bracket like the one on 350z set-up..........
Also what kinda BOV can i use or do i have to use the ATI BOV
but i a probelm-
i went through and watche the install videos, and install pictures and saw that each ATI kit came with a HUGE mounting plate/bracket- i was wondering if that is really necessary- I plan on mounting mine on the passneger side right above the tensioner pulley and running the piping down to an intercooler and back up to through where the stock intake goes
so main concern is- do i need to fab up a massive mounting bracket like the one on 350z set-up..........
Also what kinda BOV can i use or do i have to use the ATI BOV
#2
Your 4.3 has the same, or similar, accessory drive and bolt patterns in the head and block as a 96-99 gen1 350 truck or Tahoe. Get a kit for one of them and modify as needed. It really wouldn't be that hard. You can use any BOV.
#3
My Vortech came with a plate made of 1/4in steel. Amazingly, under torque it can flex enough to throw belts. Using it as a template, I made a plate of 1/2in aluminum with tabs to bracket top and bottom to the block. Now, it can't move. I advise doing similar.
The picture is a little dark but the left bracket is the kit and the right is the fabbed
The picture is a little dark but the left bracket is the kit and the right is the fabbed
#4
Pro charger did not make a bracket..
But I did.
There was someone at one point who " made " a kit and butchered it all to hell. I picked up one of his "used" kits and rebuilt it myself.
I might be able to help you I have a " spare" bracket it mounts on the passenger side I don't have it mocked up at the moment but I probobly can do it for you in the next week or so and get pics.
I have had 2 diffrent procharged 4.3 trucks and ran them deep into the 13's before I went beyond what was needed for fuel.. and now I am building 2114 edelbrock intakes to fuel it... But right now I am setting up to do turbos on both trucks instead of just my blazer.
I ran a 60-1 last year and with meth got deep in the 12's now I just need more fuel.
The procharger setup can be done fairly cheap I probobly have just about everything you need.
Hit me up
Revolution_Racing@comcast.net
But I did.
There was someone at one point who " made " a kit and butchered it all to hell. I picked up one of his "used" kits and rebuilt it myself.
I might be able to help you I have a " spare" bracket it mounts on the passenger side I don't have it mocked up at the moment but I probobly can do it for you in the next week or so and get pics.
I have had 2 diffrent procharged 4.3 trucks and ran them deep into the 13's before I went beyond what was needed for fuel.. and now I am building 2114 edelbrock intakes to fuel it... But right now I am setting up to do turbos on both trucks instead of just my blazer.
I ran a 60-1 last year and with meth got deep in the 12's now I just need more fuel.
The procharger setup can be done fairly cheap I probobly have just about everything you need.
Hit me up
Revolution_Racing@comcast.net
#5
Incidentally..
It can't be done on the passenger side the beltslip is too great. I know from trying before.
As well as the fullsize truck bracket will not come anywhere near clearing.
Unless you want to cut your hood.
It can't be done on the passenger side the beltslip is too great. I know from trying before.
As well as the fullsize truck bracket will not come anywhere near clearing.
Unless you want to cut your hood.
#6
Originally Posted by Revolutionary
Pro charger did not make a bracket..
But I did.
There was someone at one point who " made " a kit and butchered it all to hell. I picked up one of his "used" kits and rebuilt it myself.
I might be able to help you I have a " spare" bracket it mounts on the passenger side I don't have it mocked up at the moment but I probobly can do it for you in the next week or so and get pics.
I have had 2 diffrent procharged 4.3 trucks and ran them deep into the 13's before I went beyond what was needed for fuel.. and now I am building 2114 edelbrock intakes to fuel it... But right now I am setting up to do turbos on both trucks instead of just my blazer.
I ran a 60-1 last year and with meth got deep in the 12's now I just need more fuel.
The procharger setup can be done fairly cheap I probobly have just about everything you need.
Hit me up
Revolution_Racing@comcast.net
But I did.
There was someone at one point who " made " a kit and butchered it all to hell. I picked up one of his "used" kits and rebuilt it myself.
I might be able to help you I have a " spare" bracket it mounts on the passenger side I don't have it mocked up at the moment but I probobly can do it for you in the next week or so and get pics.
I have had 2 diffrent procharged 4.3 trucks and ran them deep into the 13's before I went beyond what was needed for fuel.. and now I am building 2114 edelbrock intakes to fuel it... But right now I am setting up to do turbos on both trucks instead of just my blazer.
I ran a 60-1 last year and with meth got deep in the 12's now I just need more fuel.
The procharger setup can be done fairly cheap I probobly have just about everything you need.
Hit me up
Revolution_Racing@comcast.net
So if you cant mount the head unit over there does it make it kinda impossible to intercool it with an air to air intercooler?
How much would you be charging for a bracket like that?
Also i know you guys are comming out with a MPFI set-up for what around like $1300 or 1400 - will this include tuning and a choice of fuel injectors?
#7
A meth kit is a bit of a bandaid just like an FMU
It is nearly impossible to use as a " supplemental" fuel system You can't predict the volitilty of it and how hot it will burn especially due to the fact that even race meth is not an exsact rating.
Meth should only be used to cool boost not to try and fuel.
It just happened to work when I tried it it was not something I could duplicate back to back for the simple fact that 2 hours later same boost same amount of meth it went half a second slower.
Mounting the head unit on the drivers side has no effect on the plumbing.. You simply come up on the passenger side rather than the drivers side. You can come into the throttle body wherever you want it really makes no diffrence as far as the plumbing goes it just needs to be fabbed on the vehicle.
As for the Headunit I used the procharger was a P1 Sc with the 4 inch pulley making about 8-9 psi It varied on air density and temprature. Cold nights I was making 9 to 10 psi. That got me down into the 13's fairly easily.
To run in the 12's I ran 10 psi but I have a considrably modified engine that is flowing alot better with larger valves and the camshaft was sized for the turbo with the proper lobe seperation and lift.
The 13's came on a junkyard 98 engine with 90k on it and my procharger setup
The bracket I have costs me about 300 bucks or so to produce depending on the cost of billet at the time. I would have to call my cnc shop and see what the current going rate is for aluminum right now to make another one.
It is nearly impossible to use as a " supplemental" fuel system You can't predict the volitilty of it and how hot it will burn especially due to the fact that even race meth is not an exsact rating.
Meth should only be used to cool boost not to try and fuel.
It just happened to work when I tried it it was not something I could duplicate back to back for the simple fact that 2 hours later same boost same amount of meth it went half a second slower.
Mounting the head unit on the drivers side has no effect on the plumbing.. You simply come up on the passenger side rather than the drivers side. You can come into the throttle body wherever you want it really makes no diffrence as far as the plumbing goes it just needs to be fabbed on the vehicle.
As for the Headunit I used the procharger was a P1 Sc with the 4 inch pulley making about 8-9 psi It varied on air density and temprature. Cold nights I was making 9 to 10 psi. That got me down into the 13's fairly easily.
To run in the 12's I ran 10 psi but I have a considrably modified engine that is flowing alot better with larger valves and the camshaft was sized for the turbo with the proper lobe seperation and lift.
The 13's came on a junkyard 98 engine with 90k on it and my procharger setup
The bracket I have costs me about 300 bucks or so to produce depending on the cost of billet at the time. I would have to call my cnc shop and see what the current going rate is for aluminum right now to make another one.
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#8
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what about your mpfi set-up your developing for the 4.3L???? because if so i would like to start peiceing this thing together- get the mount, head unit, intercooler, BOV and run maybe 6psi and juice and then save for the mpfi set-up from you guys or a 2114 mpfi.
As far as the price goes on your mpfi will this include tuning and a choice of injectors ? because once i get a mpfi i would like to turn the boost up to maybe 15 or 16psi
what about your mpfi set-up your developing for the 4.3L???? because if so i would like to start peiceing this thing together- get the mount, head unit, intercooler, BOV and run maybe 6psi and juice and then save for the mpfi set-up from you guys or a 2114 mpfi.
As far as the price goes on your mpfi will this include tuning and a choice of injectors ? because once i get a mpfi i would like to turn the boost up to maybe 15 or 16psi
#9
As far as the intake goes.
I am not going to release it for sale. I can't compete with every guy on s10 forum that wants to try and make one in the garage or says he can make one better. So I am not going to produce any except for my own or my immedate customers that I am doing actual fabrication for. The tuning that is involved and the addtional work neccisary to make it a "bolt on" is not for just anyone to do. I have experience with them and what it takes to install it and make it work so I am going to stick to just my customers only that I am doing install or fab work for. I just don't want the headache of trying to fix things for other people who don't want to pay.
Bottom line the s10 guys are cheap.. they don't have the money to go really fast if they did.. they would not be putting it into an s10. I have 2 s10's 2 fullsize and a drag car.. thats the only reason I dabble with the s-series platform. But I have a really bad taste in my mouth right now from the s-series boards and members trying to get everything from me cheap so I am going to back away from catering to them. If I have a customer that is paying and wants to go down the right road to build a boosted engine I am more than happy to do it. But the bottom line is time is money and I haven't seen dollar one for minute one from any of the s10 guys they keep trying to get me to give things to them for dirt and I still have bills to pay and overhead myself.
If you end up wanting to go down that road I will do what I can to help you but I am not going to be doing any stocking of parts it will be all one off from here on out. I allready have the latest design done and ready to run later this month but I am going to keep that to myself.
Best of luck.
I am not going to release it for sale. I can't compete with every guy on s10 forum that wants to try and make one in the garage or says he can make one better. So I am not going to produce any except for my own or my immedate customers that I am doing actual fabrication for. The tuning that is involved and the addtional work neccisary to make it a "bolt on" is not for just anyone to do. I have experience with them and what it takes to install it and make it work so I am going to stick to just my customers only that I am doing install or fab work for. I just don't want the headache of trying to fix things for other people who don't want to pay.
Bottom line the s10 guys are cheap.. they don't have the money to go really fast if they did.. they would not be putting it into an s10. I have 2 s10's 2 fullsize and a drag car.. thats the only reason I dabble with the s-series platform. But I have a really bad taste in my mouth right now from the s-series boards and members trying to get everything from me cheap so I am going to back away from catering to them. If I have a customer that is paying and wants to go down the right road to build a boosted engine I am more than happy to do it. But the bottom line is time is money and I haven't seen dollar one for minute one from any of the s10 guys they keep trying to get me to give things to them for dirt and I still have bills to pay and overhead myself.
If you end up wanting to go down that road I will do what I can to help you but I am not going to be doing any stocking of parts it will be all one off from here on out. I allready have the latest design done and ready to run later this month but I am going to keep that to myself.
Best of luck.
#10
well i have figured out the hard and expensive way on my nitrous set-up that cheaper is almost never better so i am willing to spend the money on a MPFI set-up- if i run boost- but 8psi and 13.1 is a pretty damn good time i must say- throw a 3400 stall, and 4.10s in it and you got 12.6 or 12.7 truck- i think that i will be doing buisness in the future with you. Thanks for the help and info
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