Critique my setup please.
#12
Holy ****. What's the secret here?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...-size-4x4.html
Maybe I should look into the triple 12 cam?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...-size-4x4.html
Maybe I should look into the triple 12 cam?
#13
Triple 12 is a great turbo cam. I would have gotten a true triple 12 but got the 114 LSA instead for smog. PM stock48 if you are looking into getting a triple 12.
Also that turbo might be a little small on a 6.0. I'm running a Turbonetics 7668 on my 5.3L but with the 0.96AR and I definitely feel like I could/should go bigger. Maybe look into their 7875. It should be the same physical size (check with Turbonetics on this). Huron Speed can get you good deals on Turbonetics.
Also that turbo might be a little small on a 6.0. I'm running a Turbonetics 7668 on my 5.3L but with the 0.96AR and I definitely feel like I could/should go bigger. Maybe look into their 7875. It should be the same physical size (check with Turbonetics on this). Huron Speed can get you good deals on Turbonetics.
Last edited by Ferocity02; Jul 9, 2013 at 10:50 PM.
#14
Sweet. Thank you.
I didn't exactly hand pick all this stuff. It's a hodgepodge of second hand parts from here and there.
Is the turbo too far off? It's brand new, I could put it up for sale and hunt for another deal. Then again, fast spool times are probably pretty great, but how much am I sacrificing up top?
Maybe it'll be good for a daily driver?
Is the JGS waste gate bad? Again, it's another one of the things I bought off of here.
Thanks so much for your experience!
I didn't exactly hand pick all this stuff. It's a hodgepodge of second hand parts from here and there.
Is the turbo too far off? It's brand new, I could put it up for sale and hunt for another deal. Then again, fast spool times are probably pretty great, but how much am I sacrificing up top?
Maybe it'll be good for a daily driver?
Is the JGS waste gate bad? Again, it's another one of the things I bought off of here.
Thanks so much for your experience!
Housings are cheap to swap out.
I like the precisions. Comes with more springs already on the box.
#15
I live in Oregon, and there's no smog in the country. So that's not a concern.
What's the trick with that cam? I don't get it.
Specs:
2002+ LS6 cam
204/218 int/exh @ 0.05" duration
0.551" / 0.547" int/exh lift
117.5 LSA
Triple 12
212/212
0.56x/0.56x
112 LSA
Idle clip: Isky 212/112 Lsa - YouTube
(Pulled from your thread, ironically.)
#16
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Huntsville, AL
Take any result that Jarret (Stock48) has with a grain of salt, he is a known wizard/magician/voodoo master. 
With that said, turbos dont care about the cam (at this level anyway). Pick a cam that will give you the driveability and sound you want and let the turbo do its job
With that said, turbos dont care about the cam (at this level anyway). Pick a cam that will give you the driveability and sound you want and let the turbo do its job
#17
Take any result that Jarret (Stock48) has with a grain of salt, he is a known wizard/magician/voodoo master. 
With that said, turbos dont care about the cam (at this level anyway). Pick a cam that will give you the driveability and sound you want and let the turbo do its job
With that said, turbos dont care about the cam (at this level anyway). Pick a cam that will give you the driveability and sound you want and let the turbo do its job

#18
What do you guys think of this advice?
I could sell my turbonetics turbo and yellow springs. The S475 seems huge to me. Thoughts?
For the cost you cant beat it, also since you are running a 6.0 a 4L80 with 3000 stall , and AWD and the truck is heavy its a no brainer. a S475 with the 1.32 A/R 96mm turbine will spool real quick, and can be had for under 700 shipped there is also plenty of space in the engine compartment to fit it with ease. Get a good electronic boost controller and turn it down to 6-7 psi for the wife and crank it up to your liking when you fill the need. Also as stated above get the 80 lb injectors are not much more and will support plenty of extra power later down the road when you get bored with 600 whp.
Also with AWD and the 4L80 you will have to have that T76 near full tilt to make your goal of 600whp. That will lead to back pressure well in excess of 3:1 on a 6.0. Foose04s posted results from his 4.8L when he had basically a identical turbo to the one you listed the results was a 3:1 ratio this was with a .96 A/R housing yours will be worse. a 6.0 will be closer to 4:1 since it is literally has to move 25 percent more exhaust another words if you run 15 psi of boost your exhaust pressure will be 45psi at least probably closer to 60psi this traps in heat in the cylinders and also leads to higher pressure in the cylinders when the intake valve opens which means you draw in less cooler air/fuel and its not as efficient at making power, not to mention closer to detonation due to higher temperatures. I would wager that the S475 will be at 600WHP around 15psi boost with the parasitic losses of your drive train it will have lower back pressure and lower IAT's as the compressor will be operating close to its most efficient area, back pressure will be between 1.1-1.3:1. Which translates into more fresh cool air/fuel and more wiggle room for timing and low Octane/ which makes the whole build safer and last longer, also gives you the ability to run a cam with some overlap if you want a choppy idle.
Your cam will work good and easily get you to your power goal that being said a cam from Martin at Tick will work better. You definitely need better springs. The 317s will work great for what you are trying to do. If your porting them your self then go for it. If your going to pay someone to port them take that money and get a cam from Tick instead, or save it and run a few more pounds boost. If have seen several untouched casting 317 and 243s rip off numbers in the 900-1XXXwhp area with a fresh valve job.
Also with AWD and the 4L80 you will have to have that T76 near full tilt to make your goal of 600whp. That will lead to back pressure well in excess of 3:1 on a 6.0. Foose04s posted results from his 4.8L when he had basically a identical turbo to the one you listed the results was a 3:1 ratio this was with a .96 A/R housing yours will be worse. a 6.0 will be closer to 4:1 since it is literally has to move 25 percent more exhaust another words if you run 15 psi of boost your exhaust pressure will be 45psi at least probably closer to 60psi this traps in heat in the cylinders and also leads to higher pressure in the cylinders when the intake valve opens which means you draw in less cooler air/fuel and its not as efficient at making power, not to mention closer to detonation due to higher temperatures. I would wager that the S475 will be at 600WHP around 15psi boost with the parasitic losses of your drive train it will have lower back pressure and lower IAT's as the compressor will be operating close to its most efficient area, back pressure will be between 1.1-1.3:1. Which translates into more fresh cool air/fuel and more wiggle room for timing and low Octane/ which makes the whole build safer and last longer, also gives you the ability to run a cam with some overlap if you want a choppy idle.
Your cam will work good and easily get you to your power goal that being said a cam from Martin at Tick will work better. You definitely need better springs. The 317s will work great for what you are trying to do. If your porting them your self then go for it. If your going to pay someone to port them take that money and get a cam from Tick instead, or save it and run a few more pounds boost. If have seen several untouched casting 317 and 243s rip off numbers in the 900-1XXXwhp area with a fresh valve job.
I could sell my turbonetics turbo and yellow springs. The S475 seems huge to me. Thoughts?
#20
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 16,282
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From: Huntsville, AL
Peoples opinion of spool time are all over the place...what some would call laggy others would call instant. With that said, I like your turbo better than the larger s475, because like you said, you want a fun daily driver, not a race truck.
He exaggerated a bit on both sides with his comments on backpressure; it wont be 4:1 with the small one and will not be anywhere close to 1:1 with the big one. Ive had a 87mm 1.10 turbine on a t4 on my 402, bp was around 3:1 up top at worst with a kb/trick style hot side with a turbo everyone would agree is too small for an engine that size...but spool was instant! Now mine is around 1.5 at worst with the larger t6 96mm 1.32 turbine and more "race style" hot pipes, but spool time is noticeably slower. That is the price you pay for bigger power; spool time.
And yes the ls6 cam will be fine as long as you get it dirt cheap
He exaggerated a bit on both sides with his comments on backpressure; it wont be 4:1 with the small one and will not be anywhere close to 1:1 with the big one. Ive had a 87mm 1.10 turbine on a t4 on my 402, bp was around 3:1 up top at worst with a kb/trick style hot side with a turbo everyone would agree is too small for an engine that size...but spool was instant! Now mine is around 1.5 at worst with the larger t6 96mm 1.32 turbine and more "race style" hot pipes, but spool time is noticeably slower. That is the price you pay for bigger power; spool time.
And yes the ls6 cam will be fine as long as you get it dirt cheap







