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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Whippled 496
... Do you have to tap into the refrigerant lines?
Yes.
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Do you have to evacuate and recharge the A/C system?
Yes.

Originally Posted by Justin @ EAD Performance
If you remove the heat exchanger, you will have to run your a/c all the time, which may be ok for some. I know I would like the option of turning the a/c off, especially in the winter.
It wouldn't be too big of a deal to incorporate a thermostat into the reservoir, a handful of relays, and a couple of refrigerant liquid-line solenoid valves, so that you could run either the A/C or chiller, but only one at a time.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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this idea would be nice for the radix guys too.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Whippled 496
Can you describe the primary and secondary plumbing setup? Do you have to tap into the refrigerant lines? Do you have to evacuate and recharge the A/C system?
The ac is normal up to the point of the low accumlator. Instead of going to back the compressor, it first goes through a bar and plate core I found.

Originally Posted by Justin @ EAD Performance
The setup looks great. I have always wondered about doing something like this. However I don't like the intercooler location. How much heat is the intercooler taking on from the driverside exhaust manifold? I know there isn't a lot of room in the engine bay. Maybe something could be done if the battery was relocated.

Do you have pictures of the intercooler outside the truck? It looks fairly small, amazing results for its size.

Also I wonder how much this will affect the climate control in the summer. Only summer testing will tell, if summer only got here soon, I'm sick of the cold weather already.
Yea the core set up down low would help some heat from the driverside, but the CORE is very cool to the touch. There is alot of air flow coming off the fans pushing the air back. You can put your hand against the core and its cool.
The battery area would force the battery to the back. I am thinking summer heat will allow the set up to work better, AC works better in the summer months.
Intercooler is a 4.5 x 4.5 x 10 unit I had built. I could put a larger one in that area but that core was going ontop at first.

Originally Posted by parish8
looks great. it is great that you guys are trying new things.

just an idea to throw out there. it might actualy work better without the radiator in the front. just a nice large insulated tank. the temps can only go so low right now. i bet the water coming out of the intercooler at idle is cooler than ambiant and gets warmed a little going thru the radiator up front. not saying it would work better, just that it might.
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We where going to try that. only time will tell.
Once I get to a track or lots of boost pulls the radiator in the front I think will come into play. Its a real easy bypass hose set up to make that test happen. I have some thermal blanket that will be going around the tank, intercooler core and the top pressure piping this week.
We might end up with two settings one for winter and one for summer.

Originally Posted by Justin @ EAD Performance
If you remove the heat exchanger, you will have to run your a/c all the time, which may be ok for some. I know I would like the option of turning the a/c off, especially in the winter.
You have to run the AC all the time for the system to work. But you can controll the temp inside the cab by adjusting the temp **** to heat. The AC will still run but you can be warm.

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yea but then you could just put the exchanger back in for winter haha alot of work.
naw really simple
1 hose and a couple of caps is all that is needed.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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To install the system you will need to have your system evacuated. install and then recharged with a little more oil and a little more freon.
This is the easest way to do this type of system. We are going to do an ICE test as well. Just becuase the water is colder does not mean I can get any more heat from the air at a given time.
So once we get what I think is the coldest water temps, and record air temps. I will add a bunch of ICE to the tank. And see if the air temps drop anymore. This is not the first time this type of set up has been done. But it is the first time this has been done as a bolt in. for our trucks. There is more to come but it starts to complicate the install and no need in complicating anything right now. LOL
I feel this set up will get rid of the meth about A/W intercoolers.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by parish8
looks great. it is great that you guys are trying new things.

just an idea to throw out there. it might actualy work better without the radiator in the front. just a nice large insulated tank. the temps can only go so low right now. i bet the water coming out of the intercooler at idle is cooler than ambiant and gets warmed a little going thru the radiator up front. not saying it would work better, just that it might.
Or you could route the water like this : the front heat-x, then to the ac tank, then to the inter-cooler then back to the front heat-x.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Nice!! Can't wait to hear more about it. It could be interesting for use on my TVS as well as was noted above.
Keep up the great work!
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 00Z71
Or you could route the water like this : the front heat-x, then to the ac tank, then to the inter-cooler then back to the front heat-x.
That is how it is routed.
ac tank, then to the inter-cooler then to the front heat-x, back to ac tank.
We were thinking once after IC on Heavy boosting the water will be hotter. Parish got me think once he mention the water coming out on the IC might still be cooler then ambien temp.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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How 'bout this set-up, too?





http://www.killerchiller.com/system_3_page.htm
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Just went for a quick drive, using what parish mentioned, NO heat exchanger.
78'f outside
69'f air temp going into the engine
60'f water return temps. I have no way of measuring the water pre intercooler, just the returning water.
We are going to double the pressure pipe, and shield the IC and the Chiller tank to see what we get.
The intercooler rear tank is colder the then the front tank. The front is the after ic tank. But I notice the fan is blowing right at. So insulation will help it a bunch.

When the temp was at 69 I went ahead and boosted to 9psi till 65mph temps got to 76 degrees. But as soon as I got off the throttle, you could watch the temps coming back down quickly, 76-74-73-71 hold for about 1/2 mile or so then back to 69.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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You can try to place Temp sensors at different places..
I have a indoor/outdoor temp sensor in my truck i got from WallyWorld..
I have the outdoor sensor ran to my Reservoir so i can see what my Intercooler water temp is after it passes through my IC..

Its just a thought to give you an idea of the temps at different places..


I also like what you guys are doin!
Keep up the good work and Lets hear a price asap!!!
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