Originally Posted by George C....

Truck was finished with minimal funds so parts like boost controller, properly built trans and a few other items were left out. Now im back to work i now have a budget to be able to buy parts here and there....you should be able to understand not working and not having all funds required

"Come out swinging".....is a trans, transbrake and boost controller.. otherwise a a foot braked TT 427 isnt gonna run hard on 7 psi when being linited to rpms





Now lets talk....your F2 was maxed before and youve made changes what do you think it will actually make?

My F2 has never been spun faster than 84% of its max recommended speed. 77/58 pulley combo, 7600 rpm shift, 5.40 internal ratio equals about 54,500 blower rpm. The truck only made one pass with that pulley combo. All other runs, including the 9.14 @ 152 mph where with a 60 crank and 52 blower pulley shifted around 7200 rpm (which put the blower around 70% or 46,000 blower rpm). Max recommended is 65,000. I never had the truck on a dyno, so I'm guessing that when it ran 154 mph @ 4110 lbs it was probably a little over 1000 hp to the tire. I do have some plans for dynoing the new combo on an engine dyno, but have no desire to ever put it on a chassis dyno so I'll never know a rwhp number.

Before you go bashing my tuning ability and the truck running near identical times at 17 psi as it did with 26 psi...........that was due to the fact that the 9.14 pass at 17 psi and the 8.99 pass at 26 psi where done with very different torque converters. I've been working with PTC, but when you make 35 passes with 4 different converters (none of which acted the way I wanted) you're going to see weird et/mph results with drastic changes in power.


Now im sure youre smart.....my build has nothing hidden what do you think it will make? That 1500 is all i was shooting for maybe less as my personal goal was 8.5s

And in the end youre an easy target being a procharger amung turbos

Agreed, and I like it that way.

Like i have a show/street truck i stand out which is fine as ive saw many so called race trucks being butchered up piles of ****...thats not how i roll amd racing for me isnt as serious as others take it....it has always been about the build and the data/ knowledge learned.....this is why im part of so many different builds

And it wont be long before my ford project is started, unlike others i enjoy having many toys for various reasons instead of a full out race vehicle.

A full out race vehicle is a job, not a job i want thats why i didnt go thru with buying a circle track car....If i cant drive it down to store then what good is having it?

My truck is fully insured, registered, inspected and has emissions sticker....Cops have saw it in person and never questioned it....I enjoy cruising to meets 50 miles away...thus why i have a working radio and dynaliner in my truck

So if my TT 427 is a waste to you thats fine and if my only goal is 8.5 is slow so be it but truck was never built to do more...i bought things i wanted

If i wanted to have a full out race truck i wouldnt of started out with my truck...i would have a entirely different approach and it would be 7s.....also i probably wouldnt waste my time building a LS motor.....

So yes if a full out maxed effort blower race truck wants to race my truck when its ready youre playing by my rules...well go to LS fest as my truck will never be in texas


LS fest is a good central place and its more then just 1 race its a event so youre build will have to go rounds. And they have street vehicles going i believe 7s now....ao that 30 mile cruise shouldnt be an issue for a proper build

Our discussions have nothing to do with my truck not being properly built, which is a subjective term anyway. It is purpose built. It is a full fill dry deck deal on methanol because I'm limited to using a stock block. If your trying to max out a stock block combo, to me a "properly built" combo is a full filled dry decked 1/2" stud reverse cooled methanol set up regardless of the power adder of choice. If I did the turbo thing, I'd still have it set up like it is now.

Also ive considered drag week and power tour events....these are more appealing then a ful out race truck making 1 pass and having to be rebuilt after it



1 more thing....Ive done all the work to my truck minus paint or machine work on motor....ive done all fab work, all wiring, all suspension work, all tuning and ill be doing my own work for either ladders or 4 link.....this is why im about the build and not many can say they actually built there vehicles, which i can

Most on here drop truck off at chassis shopsb then drop trucks off to be wired, then they call up joe smoe for turbo kit.....For me to stand back and say i built mine goes further then writing a check........take this how you want but its not at your or anyone unless shoe fits


Anyone who is friends with me on face book have saw all projects im part of, currently doing a 25.5 cage on a car and a full build on a 97SS amd those will be done prior to me working on my truck as they help pay for my toys



What more do ya need explained?




For record im not worried about any fullsize truck in a race...why as thats a bold statment as Im just not...A loss is a loss and a win is a win....Hell not worried about any cars for that matter but is amusing the different levels ppl take to achieve things....yours is full race to make a blower work, spike us a full tube chassis with ballast and weights to make it weigh in as they claim, others run as they do on street


In the end dont lie saying fastest so and so when you dont have it, internet records mean ****....enjoy the build and go on about the day after a pass is made

If you go back in history youll never once see a post of my truck ever being claimed to be fastest in any form since its transformation....it held the record for fastest manual in 2012 then someone beat it...cool for them


Now if im under your skin this early well youre missing out on the point then well others are enjoying the laughs

Originally Posted by George C....

Its pretty amusing a maxed out build is gonna go any faster...you cant even tune for c16 and you want to tune for dual injectors on alcohol...you alot to learn prior to making callouts
Seeing yourr a fat **** and race weight was 4100 thats saying truck was very light.....

I'm 240 lbs. Truck scaled 4110 lbs. So truck without me was 3870. I could stand to lose some weight, I agree with you there, but the mexican food down here is very good. lol

You calling my truck "very light" is ******* comical. Tell me you were being sarcastic please.

As for claiming its lighter thrn yours...you cant read very well..look exactly how words are typed and youll never see actual a claim of being lighter

Yes you think your procharged truck is gonna be faster then mine...well funny about that is my own personal goal was only to be 1/10th faster then TT-Notch.
Now unlike yourself youve been trying to justify your procharger for years against all the other turbo trucks in texas

Sure I have, and why not. Turbocharged LS combos are nothing more than cookie cutter set ups these days. As arrogant as you are, I'd think you'd praise me for trying to be different. As for your TT 427.............if it runs good.......nobody will give a ****. You're just doing the monkey see monkey do thing as far as your engine combination is concerned.

If you need to be towed to the line and back from the stripe but want to run a street truck thats pretty ******* amusing
You call it as an excuse i see it as you cant build it correctly to be able to drive to starting line and from without overheating

My building/fab skills, while no where nearly as good as yours, aren't horrible. Aside from some of the chassis work Madman did for me.......I'm the only other person to ever touch my truck. I'm doing my best to try to make it nice.

As for trophy thats very nice but why are you trying to justify to mine?

Just saying.......I have trophies from winning races, you have trophies from car shows. Two different games.......which makes me wonder why I've ever wasted all this time responding to you anyway.

As for racing me, you should be able to meet the rules for an event but a full out race truck wont ever be able to do that...sad part high 8s isnt considered fast for a truck in texas and to require a dry decked motor with minimal coolant with dual injectors to run them times with a blower kinda speaks for itself

I don't care who you are or what you drive, anything that has printed an 8 second time slip while over 2 tons is nothing to sneeze at. I'm still waiting to see your 8 second time slip. Matter of fact, I'm still waiting to see your 9 second time slip.


So if you need that stuff and to be ultra light to try run around me more power to you...ill enjoy my comforts as i pull up to the line



Now ill never cut up my truck, changes planned are trans,converter,boost controller and possibly rear


Now as for chute comment over 150 its required, you know that mph you barely hit at 27psi and 25* with 12.0 afrs.......see nice thing about texas tracks are shut downs are long enough....our track ive already almoat went into sand pit cause shut down isnt long enough so the chute is required for when truck does see track

Originally Posted by Blown06

Geezz man, you just don't stop do you?

I give up. You win.

Originally Posted by Wolftrk99

So apparently the real race was to see who would give up and concede that the other guy wins, wtf is that????