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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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I am using the express van brackets, the vortec 454 brackets wont bolt up
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 01:48 PM
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No because that water crossover pipe...
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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No because that water crossover pipe...
Yes and the bolt pattern is different
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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Yea...I just order those bracket got them for 140 new thanks for the info now time for performance
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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you got 2 options work with the stock stuff or raylar
Post some pics of this project
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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Hi xx_ED_xx,

You need to dyno that thing! Your truck is running our stage 3 kit and a single turbo right? (206 cam / heads / roller rockers / forged bottom end)

Thank you for the compliment on the new site! We've put in a lot of time to try and explain things better than we have in the past. We want to be as informative as possible and are using questions from the forums to further answer questions and concerns that come up from customers.



As you already know, the stock manifold really chokes the motor back above 4,250 RPM. Above is a rear wheel power comparison between three of our parts combinations:
Bone Stock (grey / black)
Heads / 202 Cam / Stock Manifold (dark blue dotted / light blue dotted)
Heads / 202 Cam / Cool Gap Manifold (dark blue solid / light blue solid)
Heads / 203 Cam / Stock Manifold (maroon / red)

As you can see, the Cool Gap / 202 cam combo makes more torque and nearly the same horsepower as the 203 cam / stock manifold past 4700! While maximum power increases over the 202 cam with the 203 camshaft, it really illustrates how much airflow becomes a limiting factor with these engines.

We haven't had a chance to put a ported intake manifold on the flow bench, but the porting essentially removes all restriction making the manifolds only real restriction the 78mm throttle body.

We're estimating that the ported manifolds produce about 80% of the air flow that the Cool Gap manifold produces. Preliminary dyno results from customers who have run the ported stock Vortec manifolds show great improvements over the stock manifold with slightly higher peak power points (200-400rpm increase) and extended power bands, but not quite as much as the Cool Gap manifold extends the power band. When we have more customer dyno results we will add that information to our charts, but the ported manifold has only been available for about 2 months.

We'll be putting the ported intake manifold on our newest shop project - a 2500 Suburban with hand ported iron heads, 203 cam and a 547cid stroker kit that fits in the stock block. (We'll toss some Raylar heads and the 206 camshaft into it eventually.) We expect that the stroker kit will show the limitations of the ported stock manifold. Since I'm mentioning the soon to be available 4.75 stroker crank setup, here are some pictures of the minor block notching thats required to make it fit.





Have I interested you in tearing your motor apart yet?
Larry, have you had a chance to see which cams will clear?
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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It's a tight fit, but every cam we sell clears the 540 crank. Here's a shot from a downward angle so you can see just how close it gets!


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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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What are you doin with the intake xx Ed xx? I just got a set of raylar heads Monday and was gonna go with just having it ported, but that looks pretty wild? Doesn't look like a coolgap
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Sweet ride though
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Hey Ed,

We're just finishing up that 6.0 -> 9.0L stroker swap on the suburban. Ended up using the 6.0 loom with a couple modified connections for the 547, thought you might want to see it.




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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 10:41 PM
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That looks evil.. Looking at your graph in the previous post it shows the 202 and 203 kits withe the stock manifold. Is that an actual stock manifold or one of your ported ones? I'm tryin to decide on the 203 or 206 cam but I'm unsure what the difference is in the ported or factory intake?
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