rcsb jon

Thanks for the response.

Some additional comments from me (per my bolded text in the quote):
-So essentially, your saying lazy moderators are to blame and the laziness is tolerated?
-Numerous forums I've been on (for different vehicle platforms) have had organized FS sections (as I described in the OP). Those categories make it way easier to figure out what you want or what is out there (Buyer/seller/moderator included). Additionally, how are you aware of the potential gains based on efforts to make organized FS sections. (Really, how hard could it be?). And why wouldn't a 10 yr old format need updated?
-Pictures need to be mandatory (w/ date of picture, username, and site name). It will make for fewer buyer/seller issues and make the forum itself more reputable.
-Not all people on the forum are as savy as other users and this site should be as user friendly as possible. So, when you say use a "search" or "hit a button"... users may not know what that is referring to (if they even got to that point to ask)

Bottom line... increased effeciency in the For Sale section is a win for everyone

ak2007r6

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If you come on a forum and don't understand what the button labeled "search" means then I don't think organizing a FS section down to the part level is going to help that individual. I do agree with slow and that at some point it needs to be put back on the buyer. Like I mentioned above my little pet peeve is about no one posting pictures but it just gets to me cause I am a picture ***** and usually have 20 pictures of the same thing. I don't think it's lazy moderators, personally I don't ever see spam here and most people stay in line and rarely do I see mods having to break up a tussle or argument which is a lot more than I can say about many other forums I frequent. ..


I have seen and do like your idea about a sign with a date and name and all that in front of what is being sold but that is a huge pita and if someone is that worried about the item and they want that extra "safety" feeling they could request that. I don't think any seller if serious about selling an item would argue to much if someone asked for that. Guess it depends what is being sold also though.

1slow01Z71

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Got the PM I'll reply here in a bit. Gotta actually get to work after I respond to this.

If someone is serious about selling something as everyone knows pictures help a ton. I too try to always post pictures of what I'm peddling.
Location would be nice, I like those tag prefixes that I've seen on other forums. See below for more elaboration on the vbulletin software.
Just meant that its in list form, not all the other add-ons and annoying stuff they've got over there. The search button for their classifieds is also a pita to navigate too.
I'll try and answer your concerns as best I can from my phone so bare with me.

On the subject of moderators, we simply can't just keep kicking "old" ones out and bring new ones in otherwise there would be a huge rift in the site as in general most of our moderators are tenured members who add to the site. Some guys get busy at certain parts of the year and its not right to can them simply because of life.

You haven't been here very long and I think you will find this site runs much smoother than 99% of the forums on the internet. The formula works, in general we have good members and we have a good core staff who care about the well-being of the site.

I owned a duramax truck and am a member of deiselplace.com and their classifieds is segregated like you're describing. In my personal opinion it isn't any easier to navigate than this site's classifieds. I've seen multiple times that something was posted in the wrong forum. We also don't have that much traffic in our classifieds. In general the first two pages hold a week or so worth of posts. It's not that hard to scrolls through that.

AK pretty well covered my view on the search button.

Bottom line is, if you're truly interested in something and the buyer hasn't posted pictures of the item, ask for some. We aren't an Obama run website where we are going to mandate that something be done when you should know to do it yourself. There is a whole laundry list of classified rules that have to be adhered to and are a good set of guidelines. Simply because something is old does not mean it is no longer useful. The LS is relatively unchanged since its inception in 1997 but is still at the forefront in power, reliability and gas mileage. I feel our classifieds are the same.

Changing the vbulletin software is a whole 'nother ball of wax. We(moderators/admins) do not have that kind of access to the vbulletin software to modify the classifieds. It was practically and act of congress to get IB to get us the trader rating system over here even after tech had, had it for a year or two. FYI we share the same database as them so its not a huge deal for them to get that done. Basically what I'm getting at is getting code changes in the forum is difficult since we the staff do not have access to that stuff.

I hope that answers your points as best I can.

Atomic

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