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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 10:47 AM
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I installed some long tube headers last fall and while its been running fine i know i need to tune it. I have previously done VE and PE tunes (before the headers) i would imagine that this is all i need to really do again? But i was reading someone posted that because the 02 sensors moved that standard ve tune doesnt really work and that you have to manually put in numbers using wideband readings. Is this true or can i just do a standard ve tune? Pe seems to be still good to go
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 10:53 AM
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You should be able to just do a regular VE and MAF tune like normal. Using a wideband is better than just guessing at number to change. You can log the VE AFR error % with a wideband to get more accurate adjustments. You need to fail the MAF for this (do not unplug because IAT is built into it), then do the tuning and once that is over you enable it again and switch to MAF tuning.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 11:05 AM
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You can still use your narrowband to tune the VE table as mentioned above.

You will also be able to get away with more timing in certain areas with the headers.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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Thanks guys, havent done any timing tuning yet, plan on doing that next
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If you didn't mess with the intake, there's no need to adjust the MAF calibration. Headers will only need VE airflow edits. If it starts drawing more fresh charge because of header scavenging, the MAF is already aware of it.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by smokeshow
If you didn't mess with the intake, there's no need to adjust the MAF calibration. Headers will only need VE airflow edits. If it starts drawing more fresh charge because of header scavenging, the MAF is already aware of it.
hmmm, I have messed with the intake a bit, lol. TBSS intake, 90mm TB and a 4" intake pipe. maybe I should look into maf tuning
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thats a definite...
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Originally Posted by FFDP
You should be able to just do a regular VE and MAF tune like normal. Using a wideband is better than just guessing at number to change. You can log the VE AFR error % with a wideband to get more accurate adjustments. You need to fail the MAF for this (do not unplug because IAT is built into it), then do the tuning and once that is over you enable it again and switch to MAF tuning.
This, give it a quick once over, it wont need much adjustment if it was done correctly previously.
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