Tuning a 2010 without dealer or OnStar knowing
07-03-2010, 11:28 PM
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Tuning a 2010 without dealer or OnStar knowing
Just bought a new 2010 Silverado LTZ.
I have Onstar and everything, whats the deal with getting a tune...be it hand held or mail order or other.
I am not looking to void the warranty is why I ask.
Is OnStar gonna know I have something done? My last truck didn't have OnStar or anything...so this is kind of new to me. I am not new to tunning by any means...but the diagnostic connection OnStar has is new.
I have Onstar and everything, whats the deal with getting a tune...be it hand held or mail order or other.
I am not looking to void the warranty is why I ask.
Is OnStar gonna know I have something done? My last truck didn't have OnStar or anything...so this is kind of new to me. I am not new to tunning by any means...but the diagnostic connection OnStar has is new.
07-05-2010, 04:22 PM
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can't do that anymore... ^ ^ ^
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
07-05-2010, 06:33 PM
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can't do that anymore... ^ ^ ^
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
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can't do that anymore... ^ ^ ^
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
07-05-2010, 06:51 PM
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can't do that anymore... ^ ^ ^
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
other data is stored in the ecm's now, one such item being mileage... and if it doesn't match the odometer, bingo! they gotcha... they know it's been swapped out...
but, like was mentioned... onstar can't tell anything about the tune parameters... all they know is if a trouble code is thrown and the CEL comes on....
and as for a dealer knowing anything, if you use the diablosport predator, or better yet - the Trinity - you can restore the original stock GM programming back to the ecm before you take it in for any dealer service work, and they are none the wiser... there are no traces left that anything has ever been changed in the ecm.... so, no worries...
I had a mail order for my last truck, But the trinity is a pretty cool piece of kit.
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07-05-2010, 08:08 PM
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Ok, so is this just in the Gas PCM's? This is the first time I have ever heard of the odometer being stored in the PCM. It has always been in the cluster ONLY. I know in the new Diesel PCMs, they can tell every time the PCMs has been flashed, so they will know if a the tune as been changed and then changed back...
the diesel ecm's are a different scenario, and they've been doing it for 2-3 years... but that info is unchanged/undetectable when using a diablosport product as well...
07-05-2010, 09:46 PM
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You have any info on TCM support for 2010 trucks yet...the 6 speed is 1 million times better than the 4L60E ever was, but it still could stand a little tweaking.
I think riding myself of the DoD would make a huge difference though.
I think riding myself of the DoD would make a huge difference though.
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GM has had mileage logging for a while in the E38, much like they have reflash history in there too (though not as intricate as the LMM). But, they never seem to enable the ability to read any of this data with the Tech II.