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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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My SFT for bank2 -10.9 and bank1 -3.1. Why are these so far apart at idle?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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If you can do another log but include HO2S11 and HO2S21, those are your factory O2 sensors, perhaps one of them is not functioning properly... OH and is your turbo a front mount or rear mount? Where are you O2 sensors located.

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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If you can do another log but include HO2S11 and HO2S21, those are your factory O2 sensors, perhaps one of them is not functioning properly... OH and is your turbo a front mount or rear mount? Where are you O2 sensors located.
Turbo is front mounted and the bank1 in stock locations and bank2 is in the downpipe. I will also get log of the o2 sensors.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 53RUSSELL
Turbo is front mounted and the bank1 in stock locations and bank2 is in the downpipe. I will also get log of the o2 sensors.
I have never logged much less tuned a Front mount turbo truck, but wouldn't what your seeing make sense? I mean bank1 should be roughly normal, but since bank2 has both exhaut sides running into it, wouldn't make sense that bank2 is twice what bank1 is? Or am i completely off? It would seem to me given your configuration to put both O2 sensors in the same pipe...
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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I know Kyles kits are set like this. I was just posting see if this was same for all turbo truck or do have bad sensor. I have another set o2 sensors at my house. When i drove the truck to ASU it was like -10 bank 2 and -3.1 on bank1 but when left ASU 4 hour later they both were saying -10 so I think it bad sensor.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Logging the O2s will probably show you the answer... Good luck, sorry I was not much help.
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Your STFT are fine. Look at the AVERAGES, they tell a different story. Bank 1's are -.07 and your Bank 2's are -3.5, but nothing to stress about for short trims, they move around alot and yours look pretty good to me. The diff is mostly likely from the bank 2 being in the down pipe. Mine are right before the turbo, so closer to the cylinders. They don't add when in this configuration, the bank 2 will be an average of both banks. You scan looks fine to me.
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Your STFT are fine. Look at the AVERAGES, they tell a different story. Bank 1's are -.07 and your Bank 2's are -3.5, but nothing to stress about for short trims, they move around alot and yours look pretty good to me. The diff is mostly likely from the bank 2 being in the down pipe. Mine are right before the turbo, so closer to the cylinders. They don't add when in this configuration, the bank 2 will be an average of both banks. You scan looks fine to me.
So if get bank 1 +/- 3% than i should be good then.
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Kyle do you have pic's where you mounted bank 2
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Originally Posted by 53RUSSELL
So if get bank 1 +/- 3% than i should be good then.
Yes with STFT, that is perfectly exceptionable . STFT can move around a lot. They are what move LTFT, and IIRC, STFT have to be off about 10+% for an extended period of time to move a LTFT (if you had them) 1-2%, so keep that in mind
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