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Old 11-17-2013, 12:56 PM
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Did you try retuning it? Obviously altered fuel pressure is going to change fueling. I would have expecting it to be richer with higher pressure though.
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
Did you try retuning it? Obviously altered fuel pressure is going to change fueling. I would have expecting it to be richer with higher pressure though.
Same pressures with the stock pump. i installed the wideband and pressure gauges before i swaped pumps. now the pressure went up after the new pump. bone stock pressure was at 64-66 at idle after the pump swap 68 at idle. both are way to high eatherway.
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Return or returnless fuel system?
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
Return or returnless fuel system?
I am sorry it is a return style fuel system.
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Something that I noticed in the tune/log, is that you have your fuel trims in affect during Openloop. So you have to take into account what your fuel trims are during WOT. I usually turn this off just to eliminate a variable.

Also, you are running a ton of timing. The reason is because you are only in the 0.40 Cylinder Airmass range. I would play with your timing table and bring those numbers down to the 27-28 ramge. I doubt 30+ degrees is gaining you any power.

What I didn't see in the log was Commanded AFR. This will tell us what AFR the ECU is asking for. That way we can determine if it is a tune issue that is not commanding the correct AFR, or a mechanical issue that is preventing it from supplying the fuel.

Make sure your wideband is hooked up and calibrated too.

The high fuel pressure shouldn't be much of and issue. If anything, it is going to make your injectors act larger then they really are, which would make the truck run lean.
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Ok got it. Command AFR histogram is set up now working on the wideband. How do I turn off the fuel trims? Dropping the timing is no problem I'll drop it and smooth it out before the next run. As far as the pressure when I do the turbo I have an adjustable so later that wont be a problem. Thank you guys I was sitting here kinda lost.
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Here is how you turn off the Open Loop Fuel Trims.

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Also, you dont need a histogram for Commanded AFR, just log the PID. Make sure it is the High Res one too.
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Originally Posted by doc350
Something that I noticed in the tune/log, is that you have your fuel trims in affect during Openloop. So you have to take into account what your fuel trims are during WOT. I usually turn this off just to eliminate a variable.

Also, you are running a ton of timing. The reason is because you are only in the 0.40 Cylinder Airmass range. I would play with your timing table and bring those numbers down to the 27-28 ramge. I doubt 30+ degrees is gaining you any power.

What I didn't see in the log was Commanded AFR. This will tell us what AFR the ECU is asking for. That way we can determine if it is a tune issue that is not commanding the correct AFR, or a mechanical issue that is preventing it from supplying the fuel.

Make sure your wideband is hooked up and calibrated too.

The high fuel pressure shouldn't be much of and issue. If anything, it is going to make your injectors act larger then they really are, which would make the truck run lean.


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Whoops, typo.....I meant to say WOULD NOT make the truck run lean....my bad


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