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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 02sierraz71_5.3
I saw this constantly on my 5.3 when I had the stock 24# injectors the faster Id go the more IDC went up and the leaner it got.

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Id make sure all the other factors that have to be met for PE enable are where they should be, if it still gives problems log the multiplier and compare it too the pe table to make sure other factors arent commin into play. If the multiplier is some other value than whats in the pe table then you know what too look for.
thanx chris, i'll try that.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Holly Kr, I wouldnt have had the ***** to stay in it at 100% TPS with that KR.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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I guess what I find remarkable about that log is how similar it is to one I would make with the exception of having KR during cruise/part throttle and not having any KR at WOT.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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only when he gets it right on the border of PE/non-PE with the TPS and then rolls (fast roll) it to the floor will this happen. Usually it's a blip of big kr and then that's it. This is the first time I have seen so much kr. This is the first time I have seen so much kr all th eway through good spark and good AFR. That's what made me wonder wtf was going on.

I was talking dc_justin about how burst kr can sometimes bring on real kr, rare I'd say, not unthinkable in a radix setup though...so I may make his burst kr a little less sensitive for starters. I am going to have him run scans like chris points out...but I may try something else dc_justin suggested. I may setup a tune where it's only pe that it looks at, and not BE. No BE at all. I am very interested in those results. Although, personally, I think the radix setup is made for the BE...errr the BE is made for the radix setup. I mean, hell, you can get to 160kpa before you are at 4000rpm. You'd think BE would rule in fast blips of the throttle.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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I was talking dc_justin about how burst kr can sometimes bring on real kr, rare I'd say, not unthinkable in a radix setup though...
That isn't what I was getting at with that. My point was that if BKR has been disabled or reduced, then that "safety" feature is no longer in play and it should be re-enabled to rule out knock caused by the rapid change.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dewmanshu
Although, personally, I think the radix setup is made for the BE...errr the BE is made for the radix setup. I mean, hell, you can get to 160kpa before you are at 4000rpm. You'd think BE would rule in fast blips of the throttle.
Yeah me too, that is why I thought this thread was a bit odd.

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9803
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dc_justin
That isn't what I was getting at with that. My point was that if BKR has been disabled or reduced, then that "safety" feature is no longer in play and it should be re-enabled to rule out knock caused by the rapid change.
see my wife is right...I don't pay attention well. I thought you registered me when I said, I have disabled my bkr completely and not his. His is as stock. Then I mention to you I may lighten the sensitivety and you didn't respond. No respond to me meant, either you missed it or your okay with it. LOL Oh well...he's full on BKR protected.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KySilverado
Yeah me too, that is why I thought this thread was a bit odd.

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9803
WOW, very interesting with Chris' repsonse. Hmmmmm....I need to register that for a bit before I comment too much. I am guessing it's because the enablers are PE enablers first. That's the primary job of PE enablers, to get into PE, then meet any other enablers (BE) afterwards. I, uhm, guess that makes sense. Sucks IMHO, but makes alot of sense why SC folks wouldn't use it(BE) much, but TC guys would.

So he's saying it's a technicality of being a glitch? It's just programmed to go through PE first then BE?
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dewmanshu
WOW, very interesting with Chris' repsonse. Hmmmmm....I need to register that for a bit before I comment too much. I am guessing it's because the enablers are PE enablers first. That's the primary job of PE enablers, to get into PE, then meet any other enablers (BE) afterwards. I, uhm, guess that makes sense. Sucks IMHO, but makes alot of sense why SC folks wouldn't use it(BE) much, but TC guys would.

So he's saying it's a technicality of being a glitch? It's just programmed to go through PE first then BE?
Well, based upon what he said and what I have seen, I will not trust BE to fuel my truck. I have made a couple other changes that I will see if they made any improvement, if not the methanol goes back on immediately. At least I'm confident it will start fueling at 2psi regardless of what table is first to react.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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cool! can i get a peak at your PE setup? BEFORE meth.

guess that pink jack stand is gonna haunt me now huh?
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