Holley Terminator X Max + stock ecm
#11
So looking at Post 21 in this thread: https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...uments-494579/
From that schematic it looks like you need a 12v source and doesn't lead me to think the ECM has any involvement? Unless that is just the power side of things? Seems like the compressor clutch circuit may be in the Holley system as the manual mentions one of the I/O's can be used for the AC cutout based on 50% throttle load (or user defined). So that would lead to the AC pressure input as previously mentioned, what does it need to see?
Although I see post 67 (#13) shows HVAC and and ECM pinouts I believe.
I saw that Phantom was trying to do something similar in that he wanted to run a carb while keeping the OEM A/C system. I sent him a PM but no response back yet to see if that ever happened.
From that schematic it looks like you need a 12v source and doesn't lead me to think the ECM has any involvement? Unless that is just the power side of things? Seems like the compressor clutch circuit may be in the Holley system as the manual mentions one of the I/O's can be used for the AC cutout based on 50% throttle load (or user defined). So that would lead to the AC pressure input as previously mentioned, what does it need to see?
Although I see post 67 (#13) shows HVAC and and ECM pinouts I believe.
I saw that Phantom was trying to do something similar in that he wanted to run a carb while keeping the OEM A/C system. I sent him a PM but no response back yet to see if that ever happened.
Last edited by ALL ULL C; 10-08-2019 at 11:14 AM.
#12
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Well the main reason was for A/C control. But I just got off the phone with Holley tech and they say that I could in fact use one of the Input/Outputs for A/C control. So if I have 4 i/o
's to use I "think" that would be something like:
* E-Fans
* A/C
* Open/TBD
* Open/TBD
Boy if that is the case it will make me a happy camper!
's to use I "think" that would be something like:
* E-Fans
* A/C
* Open/TBD
* Open/TBD
Boy if that is the case it will make me a happy camper!
#14
So there still is BCM on the 99-02's but not as complex? I honestly did not think there was, but yes now complicates matters.... I think.
To be honest having seat belts and/or harnesses removes the airbag concern as lets be honest many people have survived up til the 90's without airbags. I've been contemplating if ABS is really still required for a touring/drag/toy. A proportioning valve and a good brake setup is nothing new here. Also no need to worry about T/C as I'm 2wd.
I guess diving into a Haynes or Chilton's may be another path. Just need to see what are the bare minimum communication requirements are that the ECM needs to see in order to retain function.
TXsilverado, the Terminator series does not have that built in so you need to use one (or two) of the I/O's depending on your fan configuration. Holley did that to keep cost/price point down.
To be honest having seat belts and/or harnesses removes the airbag concern as lets be honest many people have survived up til the 90's without airbags. I've been contemplating if ABS is really still required for a touring/drag/toy. A proportioning valve and a good brake setup is nothing new here. Also no need to worry about T/C as I'm 2wd.
I guess diving into a Haynes or Chilton's may be another path. Just need to see what are the bare minimum communication requirements are that the ECM needs to see in order to retain function.
TXsilverado, the Terminator series does not have that built in so you need to use one (or two) of the I/O's depending on your fan configuration. Holley did that to keep cost/price point down.
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/rant LOL
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#16
TECH Apprentice
I'm interested in this as well, having a 2000 model myself and running a FAST XFI system for the LSA blower and 4L80 trans. I could not find a suitable pre-built or custom harness available for my configuration so I pull the factory engine harness out and was just going to delete the A/C honestly. Running hydroboost brakes and no need for transfer case functions or any of that sort. A/C was the only real thing I was concerned with.
#18
Any updates on this? I'm looking to do the same thing in my 99 and so far i have not turned up anything. AC is already removed in my case and I don't plan to run the factory dash so really curious to see if you have found any information.
#20
Have you found any way to keep the factory Cruise Control with the Holley? Seems that nobody cares about cruise anymore when they swap ECM's.
I found that it's cheaper to buy a L96 or LY6 locally than rebuild my L31 or find an LQ4. I was going to grab a take-out and a terminator x but can't find anything on running cruise control or A/C.
I found that it's cheaper to buy a L96 or LY6 locally than rebuild my L31 or find an LQ4. I was going to grab a take-out and a terminator x but can't find anything on running cruise control or A/C.