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Old May 26, 2016 | 05:26 PM
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I've noticed an issue with KR today and I'm not sure if its a genuine problem or if its false knock from another source. It seems to happen mostly around (after) shifts but there were a few exception.

Being that this is a FI car I really do not want to turn down the gain on the knock sensors unless I have to.

The setup is a bone stock 5.3 (lmg) with a 76mm on3 turbo kit and 850cc FAST injectors, running very rich.

I've attached my tune and a few logs.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 03:49 PM
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anyone?
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Old May 27, 2016 | 05:49 PM
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Looking at your high octane map, you are actually adding 2 degrees (from 12 to 14) of timing when you from 1.67 to 1.80 down in the 4200 column. Smoothing it out and removing a few degrees may help. However that does not explain the KR at 4800 rpm. Can you log per cylinder (A-H) KR?

With 10 degrees of timing, running as rich as you are, and 9.5 compression, I don't think it's real KR. You can try adding a few gallons of race gas to see if it goes away.

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Old May 27, 2016 | 06:41 PM
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factory settings for the knock sensor sensitivity is way too high for a modified setup. I would at minimum use the settings from a c5 Z06.

Use at your own risk. JMO.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Intereting. I have actually made mine more sensative.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 07:05 PM
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GEN 4 computers are little different than older GEN 3 computers that for sure.

Kinda crazy how much predicted knock and knock sensor sensitivity they put in them from the factory.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 08:33 PM
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Last Call is referring to rich knock.

Wherever you see KR, subtract that amount in the corresponding high/low spark settings.

If it goes away, it's real. If it stays, it's false.
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