EFiLive vs HPT ... owners of both, I need opinions
03-15-2011, 06:11 AM
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EFiLive vs HPT ... owners of both, I need opinions
Hey guys I have EFilive and over the course of a few years have been tuning and running into issues like most people do when they learn tuning. My question is, who gives better support? I have been on the EFilive forums and everytime I ask a question I get little to no response. Is it the same on the HPT side of things?
Case in point I have a thread I created in 2006 and have not had one response to it.
Case in point I have a thread I created in 2006 and have not had one response to it.
03-15-2011, 07:09 AM
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I have had issues too. I find that the search button on EFIlive.com doesn't work so easy. There is a guy named joecar that has always been very helpful. What are your problems? The biggest problem I see is that the people that really know the right answers are not as helpful as they could be because they don't want to give secrets away as it is their living. Post your problems here.
03-15-2011, 08:43 AM
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Im just having issues with my efan setup...the problem started a long time ago when my nelson harness blew up and I picked up a couple codes along with that. B1000 and U1500 I posted this over there to see If I could get some quick advice or help and that was in 2006 lol. Not a single answer to that post.
Now I have a new PCM and my fans still dont turn on like theyre supposed to. Instead they are just on all the time instead using the on time...and Im pretty sure these codes that i got with the old PCM have something to do with it. I just dont know where to look mechanically to fix them.
Now I have a new PCM and my fans still dont turn on like theyre supposed to. Instead they are just on all the time instead using the on time...and Im pretty sure these codes that i got with the old PCM have something to do with it. I just dont know where to look mechanically to fix them.
03-15-2011, 09:20 AM
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So you made a post 5 years ago and no one answered it and you think some one might dig it up and answer it now? 
Ask the question again, bum the post a time or too. There is not a lot of tuning traffic, so things sometimes get over looked. Just because one post didn't get any response 5 years ago on one forum doesn't mean no one will help you 
. I'm not a fan guru, but sounds more like a wiring problem then a tune problem if the tune is setup to turn on the fans. Go back over your wiring and make sure it is correct and that you have the pins in the right spot. If there not, they could be in a ground slot and that would make them run all the time.
Ask the question again, bum the post a time or too. There is not a lot of tuning traffic, so things sometimes get over looked. Just because one post didn't get any response 5 years ago on one forum doesn't mean no one will help you . I'm not a fan guru, but sounds more like a wiring problem then a tune problem if the tune is setup to turn on the fans. Go back over your wiring and make sure it is correct and that you have the pins in the right spot. If there not, they could be in a ground slot and that would make them run all the time.
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the user forums are not the best support. I know on the HPT side, 1. you will find your awnser before someone else responds or 2.someone who has info sends it in a PM and the thread with your question does not help the next guy...
my advise: find a mentor. start a meeting time for guys in your area where you meet and talk tuning over donuts...good luck
my advise: find a mentor. start a meeting time for guys in your area where you meet and talk tuning over donuts...good luck
03-15-2011, 09:50 AM
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There is definitely more traffic on the hpt forum but it seems to be a lot of fluffy with no real sustenance. There are a handful of guys on efi that answer all the questions it seems. Is say as far as forum support they're pretty damn close as in not a whole lot of help. I went efi because the people who I can ask questions to use efi, if they used hpt I probably would've went it instead.
Is the nelson harness a 2 or 3 relay setup. I went with a blackbear 3 relay harness for the 03+ trucks on my 01 and it worked perfect. Has anyone looked at your tune to verify that it is set up right?
Is the nelson harness a 2 or 3 relay setup. I went with a blackbear 3 relay harness for the 03+ trucks on my 01 and it worked perfect. Has anyone looked at your tune to verify that it is set up right?
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So you made a post 5 years ago and no one answered it and you think some one might dig it up and answer it now? Ask the question again, bum the post a time or too. There is not a lot of tuning traffic, so things sometimes get over looked. Just because one post didn't get any response 5 years ago on one forum doesn't mean no one will help you . I'm not a fan guru, but sounds more like a wiring problem then a tune problem if the tune is setup to turn on the fans. Go back over your wiring and make sure it is correct and that you have the pins in the right spot. If there not, they could be in a ground slot and that would make them run all the time.
Ask the question again, bum the post a time or too. There is not a lot of tuning traffic, so things sometimes get over looked. Just because one post didn't get any response 5 years ago on one forum doesn't mean no one will help you . I'm not a fan guru, but sounds more like a wiring problem then a tune problem if the tune is setup to turn on the fans. Go back over your wiring and make sure it is correct and that you have the pins in the right spot. If there not, they could be in a ground slot and that would make them run all the time. As for the tune / electrical issue...im pretty sure its an electrical problem now...its not a simple "you put the pins in the wrong slot" issue though...Trust me my eyes are REAL good and I can see the tiny little etched in plastic 42 on the blue harness and 33 on the red. I've literally pulled them out and RE-pined them with new wire and PCM pins and it still does the same thing. This all started in 2006 when I posted my original post in EFiLive. My nelson harness blue up and when that happen, I got a code on my PCM that i had at that time, B1000 and U1500! It would just have been real helpful if someone could've given me a small hint as to what i need to look for. Back in 2006 when this happen and i got no responses i figured it was just a problem with the PCM...so i said screw it because Im swapping the PCM anyway when i do my 383/4L80e swap...which i did, and with this new PCM I dont have the codes, however I do still have the issue where my fans come on as soon as the Key is on, engine off or on!! I know they are related I just can't figure out what mechanically/electrically needs to be replaced. Whatever it is, is definitely cauing this issue because I cant even Bidi control the fans on and off.
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There is definitely more traffic on the hpt forum but it seems to be a lot of fluffy with no real sustenance. There are a handful of guys on efi that answer all the questions it seems. Is say as far as forum support they're pretty damn close as in not a whole lot of help. I went efi because the people who I can ask questions to use efi, if they used hpt I probably would've went it instead.
Is the nelson harness a 2 or 3 relay setup. I went with a blackbear 3 relay harness for the 03+ trucks on my 01 and it worked perfect. Has anyone looked at your tune to verify that it is set up right?
Is the nelson harness a 2 or 3 relay setup. I went with a blackbear 3 relay harness for the 03+ trucks on my 01 and it worked perfect. Has anyone looked at your tune to verify that it is set up right?
