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Old Dec 6, 2015 | 07:36 PM
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Default 4L80E Lockup Tuning Woes

I have a segment swap done on my turbo 4.8l with a stock 4l80e with a triple disc 258mm circle D 3600 stall converter. After today's outing at the track, I had some questions (Tune, Config, and log attached).

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**I am commanding the converter to lock in 2nd and 3rd gear.
**I am utilizing the tow haul button and its respective tables for my track passes, so if looking at the tune be sure to look at the "performance" transmission tables.

1) I am commanding the converter to lock after the 1->2 shift (it appears the lockup mph is based off the ISS, and it locked mid 1->2 shift). The converter locked in 2nd, then unlocked at 71mph, then locked again at 84mph. Why?

2) I have shift lock disabled, however the converter is staying locked during at WOT through the 2->3 shift. What should I change to have the converter unlock for the shift?

Despite the transmission issues, the truck ran a new PB of 11.59sec@115.9mph.

Thanks for the help!
Attached Files
File Type: hpt
12PSI 4L80ESS Tune 22.hpt (494.7 KB, 195 views)
File Type: cfg
2 Bar Config 1B.cfg (3.2 KB, 87 views)

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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Nobody?

Could it be a solenoid or internal issue that may be responsible for the converters locking/unlocking at WOT?
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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According to your TCC Slip % there is no lockup in that log when you are rolling at 100% TPS...slip % stays high.(can you log TCC Mode with HPT?..Off, Enabled, Applying, Locked, etc). And how is there 0% slip when you are holding it at 3500RPM/ 0MPH on the brake? Something is not right.
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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Thanks for the response Dr X.

I haven't done too much logging for transmission parameters until I started tuning WOT lockup speeds.

The TCC% slip is definitely wrong. In the log, when PWM is 99-100% the converter is locked.

Any thoughts as to what the issue could be, or even how to diagnose it?

Thanks!
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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Did you double check the ISS wiring?

Was the Seg swap done with 2.25 Beta?

Yes, it should be locked at 99%. I would log more trans parameters....ISS, VSS, TCC Mode, Gear, Slip RPM, Engine RPM, etc.
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Old Dec 14, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Yes. It was swapped with 2.25 Beta...is that good or bad? HA! I'll do some more reading, log more parameters, and see what I can come up with.

Appreciate the help man!
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Originally Posted by lycominghunter
Yes. It was swapped with 2.25 Beta...is that good or bad? HA!
Should be good...have seen some people just copy/paste tables and think they did a seg swap. I built myself a tune with 2.25 Beta but never got a chance to try it out. Had been running on EFILive til now.
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