Michigan: Police Search Cell Phones During Traffic Stops
Apr 21, 2011 | 09:43 PM
#11
GPS function and supporting applications (google maps, ect.) would not function while the phone was powered off. The phone would also not register on the cellular network (ie. towers) and enable anyone to track the towers your phone used to send/receive data. Texts and voicemail would likely load into your phone as soon as you power it back on though. This would only be bad if the messages contained something incriminating.
When I worked with Alltel, we were looking at using the CelBrite devices to replace some PCs used for customer service purposes. Those are pretty powerful little tools.
I think this is extremely invasive and not called for. My suggestion is that if you are planning a trip to Mexico, plan it face to face and turn your phone off from the time you head out and leave it off until you return to a place that you don't mind being found. Don't take pics, don't video it, don't leave VMs, and don't text about it.
When I worked with Alltel, we were looking at using the CelBrite devices to replace some PCs used for customer service purposes. Those are pretty powerful little tools.
I think this is extremely invasive and not called for. My suggestion is that if you are planning a trip to Mexico, plan it face to face and turn your phone off from the time you head out and leave it off until you return to a place that you don't mind being found. Don't take pics, don't video it, don't leave VMs, and don't text about it.
Last edited by jpodell; Apr 21, 2011 at 09:48 PM.
Apr 21, 2011 | 10:24 PM
#12
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3458.asp
ACLU seeks information on Michigan program that allows cops to download information from smart phones belonging to stopped motorists.
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The ACLU is concerned that these powerful capabilities are being quietly used to bypass Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches.
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it's just this easy:
http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-p...-tutorial.html
ACLU seeks information on Michigan program that allows cops to download information from smart phones belonging to stopped motorists.
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The ACLU is concerned that these powerful capabilities are being quietly used to bypass Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches.
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it's just this easy:
http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-p...-tutorial.html
1 1/2 min. to retrieve all the info - Spooky how fast that is.
Watch out guys, it's another small step towards removing your rights, freedom and liberty. If unchecked, these kinds of things are quietly passed into law, all under the guise of "security" or fighting "crime". One day we'll all wake up and realise that we have no freedom or privacy left anymore... and that day is coming soon!
Be vigilant and fight these intrusions.
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A cop would like to search your cellphone in order to further compile a database on you. He (they) would download your phonebook, pictures, videos, contacts, calls made, web history, SIM data, cookies, notes, MMS, instant messages, Bluetooth devices, GPS, Wi-Fi and Cell Tower locations, journeys, GPS Fixes, call logs, text messages, Skype and Facebook contacts and more. It gathers this information and files them into reports. From this they can easily see by entering this information into a database whether you associated or had contact with anyone they deemed undesireable or whether your internet activities broke a law of any kind. They can pinpoint your past locations and exact time there. They can profile you based on your electronic activity and easily see whether you pose a threat, real or perceived. This device can make a clone of your phone including passwords. All this information is power.
Homeland security is using similar devices to scan the laptops of incoming travelers. This is just another step taken by a paranoid government that doesn't trust its own people. Thank God for the ACLU.
Be vigilant and fight these intrusions.
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A cop would like to search your cellphone in order to further compile a database on you. He (they) would download your phonebook, pictures, videos, contacts, calls made, web history, SIM data, cookies, notes, MMS, instant messages, Bluetooth devices, GPS, Wi-Fi and Cell Tower locations, journeys, GPS Fixes, call logs, text messages, Skype and Facebook contacts and more. It gathers this information and files them into reports. From this they can easily see by entering this information into a database whether you associated or had contact with anyone they deemed undesireable or whether your internet activities broke a law of any kind. They can pinpoint your past locations and exact time there. They can profile you based on your electronic activity and easily see whether you pose a threat, real or perceived. This device can make a clone of your phone including passwords. All this information is power.
Homeland security is using similar devices to scan the laptops of incoming travelers. This is just another step taken by a paranoid government that doesn't trust its own people. Thank God for the ACLU.
Scott, a cop doesn't need to search phone for speeding or something else completely non-related, but an accident I'd say they'd be all over that. If they pinpoint when u call, they can tell u caused the accident by being on phone. Some of the places round here prohibit cell phone use in car w/o hands free or in general. As zeake said, it's plain and simple an invasion of privacy if they wanna view your pics as they have little to do w/. an accident but if there's incriminating illegal pics, well ...
GPS function and supporting applications (google maps, ect.) would not function while the phone was powered off. The phone would also not register on the cellular network (ie. towers) and enable anyone to track the towers your phone used to send/receive data. Texts and voicemail would likely load into your phone as soon as you power it back on though. This would only be bad if the messages contained something incriminating.
When I worked with Alltel, we were looking at using the CelBrite devices to replace some PCs used for customer service purposes. Those are pretty powerful little tools.
I think this is extremely invasive and not called for. My suggestion is that if you are planning a trip to Mexico, plan it face to face and turn your phone off from the time you head out and leave it off until you return to a place that you don't mind being found. Don't take pics, don't video it, don't leave VMs, and don't text about it.
When I worked with Alltel, we were looking at using the CelBrite devices to replace some PCs used for customer service purposes. Those are pretty powerful little tools.
I think this is extremely invasive and not called for. My suggestion is that if you are planning a trip to Mexico, plan it face to face and turn your phone off from the time you head out and leave it off until you return to a place that you don't mind being found. Don't take pics, don't video it, don't leave VMs, and don't text about it.
Last edited by fastnblu; Apr 21, 2011 at 10:34 PM.
Apr 21, 2011 | 11:08 PM
#16
Watch out guys, it's another small step towards removing your rights, freedom and liberty. If unchecked, these kinds of things are quietly passed into law, all under the guise of "security" or fighting "crime". One day we'll all wake up and realise that we have no freedom or privacy left anymore... and that day is coming soon!
Be vigilant and fight these intrusions.
Be vigilant and fight these intrusions.
If you get pulled over, shut your phone off and hide it.
Apr 21, 2011 | 11:09 PM
#17
W/. cell phones & computers, no.
I'm sure some have seen these futuristic movies where it's America goin out in the say the year 2xxx. Marshal law & all that ****, When I saw this thread, that's immediatly what I thought of. Wasn't Jessica Alba in a movie / show like that?
I'm sure some have seen these futuristic movies where it's America goin out in the say the year 2xxx. Marshal law & all that ****, When I saw this thread, that's immediatly what I thought of. Wasn't Jessica Alba in a movie / show like that?
Apr 21, 2011 | 11:21 PM
#18
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Apr 22, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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Apr 22, 2011 | 09:08 AM
#20
I don't see where there would be the time alone to review the pics, video, texts etc. I can't see this happening even if it were legal. If it was legal I could see where pics would be downloaded from the young cute girls. This would be used to be abused, end there is no reason it should ever exist. That would be like having a party at your house where the cops get called, and having them come into your home, and go through your computer, and digital camera.
