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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by usabodyguard
...Now imho the best line of defense for your home is a shotgun, period. ...
+1. I'm actually shocked by all the gun toters on here, no one said that, except maybe 1, & of course, you.
A 12 Ga. is a strong deterrent, too bad I don't have 1...yet. I mean to say, if I believed in guns.

Dave, why not bigger BBs, say buckshot?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by fastnblu
Dave, why not bigger BBs, say buckshot?
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Ok, I misread your statement. Well, here's my take on why not to use small little birdshot in shotguns haha.
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I'll take a stab at answering.

Cause birdshot is for birds, plain and simple. I can't find my favorite page that has ballistic gel testing of a wide variety of shotgun loads, but birdshot makes for nasty, shallow wounds.

For effective loads, the FBI has a testing standard of a minimum of 12" penetration depth. Google up some ballistic gel tests and you'll see the difference.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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At 1st read, it seemed like u were against bird shot; then later refer to how it hits. Is this a con 1st, pro after?
I know a lot of BBs cover area. Buckshot, well not so much area. Wound vs ...
If tryin to hit a target, you're goin for mass anyways, right? A handgun will get mass if u hit; a shotgun just has to get close.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by usabodyguard
No problem Bill, any advice i can offer is my pleasure. Last thing I want to see is a good standing citizen get F'd because of some liberal prosecuter/atty






Well let me touch on a couple of points... as a certified NRA instructor, I would not recommend a "handgun" for your first line of home defense. With that said, a laser is the last thing I would ever put on a gun, for a couple of reasons -
1. - Lasers will give YOUR position away at night... surprise is one of your tactical advantages - a laser takes this away.
Yeah i wouldn't ever put a laser on my handgun for the reason you mentioned, was just using it as a reference to my question.



Originally Posted by usabodyguard
Now, night sites - trijicon's etc, are great I have them on all of my guns... the arguement there is that it is not a "james bond" mod, and these allow you to be more accurate at night, which reduces the chance of strays.
Yeah i have night sights and love them



But then again, if someone is threatening my life and im in the "right" to defend myself, why does it really matter what so called "mods" i have on my firearms, guess it goes back to the liberal defense/prosecutor that you may get

Hell my uncle had a guy walk into his house during the day and came running down the hallway with a big kitchen knife where he was with his wife, so he had heard him come in and already had his .40, he looked down the hallway and let him have it. He told me the police gave him more **** for his truck having a day old inspection sticker
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 00ChevyScott
I don't think there is enough compared to the amount of criminals out there.

If I was old enough to buy a handgun, I'd have one.
True, very true, but i will just stick with my house alarm and get a big dog (Kruster my cat would probably go up to the burglar to make friends). I don't know squat about guns, never even shot one, so I would probably do more harm than good, plus my fiance won't stay in a house that has a gun in it. Plus i don't like guns anyways... Some may call me foolish but that is just my beliefs, I respect the fact that people can own guns and carry them so no beef there, just not for me...
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeteys5.3
But then again, if someone is threatening my life and im in the "right" to defend myself, why does it really matter what so called "mods" i have on my firearms, guess it goes back to the liberal defense/prosecutor that you may get

Dead men can't talk. Sorry, I had to.
So did your Uncle tell burgular, "never bring a knife to a gun fight?"
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fastnblu
Dead men can't talk. Sorry, I had to.
So did your Uncle tell burgular, "never bring a knife to a gun fight?"
Nope, he cued the tape player to play that cliche whistle before a gunfight.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Ruger LCP in my front pocket, everyday.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fastnblu
Dead men can't talk. Sorry, I had to.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Had to post these facts i thought were interesting!

*Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day.

*As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.

*one-half million self-defense uses. Every year, as many as one-half million citizens defend themselves with a firearm away from home.

*States which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5%, aggravated assaults by 7% and robbery by 3%

*If those states not having concealed carry laws had adopted such laws in 1992, then approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults and over 11,000 robberies would have been avoided yearly.
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