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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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----- I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.



Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.



A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.



When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.



One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.



Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.



DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!



WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON



Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.



Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.



I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.



These companies import Middle Eastern oil:



Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels



Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)



Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:



Sunoco..................0 barrels

Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair.................0 barrels

BP/Phillips............0 barrels

Hess.......................0 barrels

ARCO....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near you.
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YAY I go to BP all the time
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)
While I thank you for the rest of your post, the above is total bullshit.

Total bullshit.

Chavez is not a dictator, and has been elected president multiple times- by overwhelming majorities.

Chavez hates Bush.

Bush is not "Americans".

This might have something to do with the CIA helping to orchestrate a coup against him in 2002. Maybe.

In fact, Chavez GIVES FREE heating oil to the poor IN THE US.

Got it? The give heating oil away to OUR POOR.

But he hates Americans...
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Thanks for the write up
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I'll go fill up at night directly from a shell gas truck while pumping on high as a middle eastern gas attendant holds the pump.

Thanks for the advice

But seriously, it was an interesting read.
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Originally Posted by Eye-P
While I thank you for the rest of your post, the above is total bullshit.

Total bullshit.

Chavez is not a dictator, and has been elected president multiple times- by overwhelming majorities.

Chavez hates Bush.

Bush is not "Americans".

This might have something to do with the CIA helping to orchestrate a coup against him in 2002. Maybe.

In fact, Chavez GIVES FREE heating oil to the poor IN THE US.

Got it? The give heating oil away to OUR POOR.

But he hates Americans...
Why dont u move there then?

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BTW...thats not my write up but a chain letter sent by my wife...who knows how true it is...I'll have to speak to a petroleum engineer I know and find out. I only buy my gas from North American wells That said, I alwas thot that they all get their gas from various refineries (not just their own) and then add proprietary blends and additives...I'll get actual answers. R/
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from my Oil & Gas analyst:
"I don't think they necessarily get their gasoline from their refinery - they just follow the best price - I would think everyone is using Middle East oil in some way.

There has been some debate over compensating for temperature on gasoline - it only really matters in the hot states, and even then, only in the summer months - i.e. Arizona. It doesn't get warm enough in the north and during the winter to matter - plus, the pumps are corrected to 15 deg C (60 deg F), at least in Canada they are, so you're usually getting a bargain in the winter and getting jilted in the summer. (Apparently gas pumps in Hawaii are temp corrected to 80 deg F?? - who knew). "
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Originally Posted by dhpro
Why dont u move there then?
Move where? What are you talking about?

By your own admission, you posted a chain letter without knowing if any of it is true...but Im the one who should leave the country for pointing out that your chain letter is inaccurate? How on earth does that make any sense?

Facts matter.
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makes sense to me, thanks alot man for the write-up man!



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