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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WICK3DxGATA
kicker isnt quality. and obviously you dont know much about skar audio because it is actually very good quality. and i understand hifonics isnt that good but this guy isnt trying to spend a whole lot of money so for his price range or alittle above hifonics would get the job done.
I've been in the 12v industry for 25 years, so yes, i know a little about quality, Skar is another 'steal me' version of what everyone elses makes, another small internet brand. And I know poeple at Hifonics, soem are good, some are cheap power. Kicker's been around for 40 years, like JL, Rockford, Alpine, etc. These's a reason those names are the founders in car audio.


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This is just my opinion and everyones going to have there own. kicker is okay i dont like the sound quality, but there is so much out there that is better. it should last as long as you dont over power it. im just not a fan of it at all and never have been. so if it was me i wouldnt even touch kicker but is it going to work for what you want yeah it probably will

a single 12 is fine if you want you can run two, if you really want to achieve low tones i would build a ported box if you can.
One, you suggest a 12" under his seat thats 5.75" deep....good luck unless eh plans on ripping it out. As far as SQ, has Skar won any national sound quality events? Kicker/RF/Alpine and Jl have.
If Skar is so good, what makes there products superior to 'name brand' brands? if you say it's less expensive, then there are reasons for that as well.

glad you like it, but it wont touch logivity of grounded companies like the main players. Blow if you over power it.? anyone can blow a sub..so Skars 2" VC wont?

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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Is all seriousness, how is Kicker low quality? Short life, poor sound quality, fall apart? I'm not going to be maxing out the sub very often.

Is a single 12" okay? I'm looking to reach those low tones and read that a 12" with a sealed box will help achieve that.

The wiring to the sub is more than sufficient, I believe the power wire from the battery is around 0 gauge.
first find the box that will work for your application. if you want a small sealed box under your seat without huge modification or cost, one from Q-Logic, Subthmp, Foxbox, etc will work. Then look at the box specs. It will have internal volumn and mounting depth. Then find a sub that will work, you may need a shallow mount like the JL, Kicker CVT, Memphis, etc. Then look at that woofers specs, and get an amp that will power it clean. So you may not need 0 gauge,I 'd bet 4 gauge would be plenty.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by blueflamed03
I've been in the 12v industry for 25 years, so yes, i know a little about quality, Skar is another 'steal me' version of what everyone elses makes, another small internet brand. And I know poeple at Hifonics, soem are good, some are cheap power. Kicker's been around for 40 years, like JL, Rockford, Alpine, etc. These's a reason those names are the founders in car audio.



One, you suggest a 12" under his seat thats 5.75" deep....good luck unless eh plans on ripping it out. As far as SQ, has Skar won any national sound quality events? Kicker/RF/Alpine and Jl have.
If Skar is so good, what makes there products superior to 'name brand' brands? if you say it's less expensive, then there are reasons for that as well.

glad you like it, but it wont touch logivity of grounded companies like the main players. Blow if you over power it.? anyone can blow a sub..so Skars 2" VC wont?
dude i really dont care how long you have been in the 12v industry.
and if you have been in that long you would realize kicker use to be good quality but its not any more (hell they even sell it at walmart now). yeah it will get the job done if your not looking for much like i said. but the best subs now are not the name brand subs that you will find at everyday shops. and yes i know anyone can blow any sub. ive blown a set of subs before.
i do like Rockford and i do like JL both are some top quality. but that still doesnt get past the point this dude asked for some help and i gave my opinion. if he doesnt like my opinion thats fine its not going to hurt my feelings i just thought i would tell him what i felt. and if you think kicker is a top competitor still thats fine you run all the kicker you want to. and for me i am going to stick with what i feel is better.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blueflamed03
first find the box that will work for your application. if you want a small sealed box under your seat without huge modification or cost, one from Q-Logic, Subthmp, Foxbox, etc will work. Then look at the box specs. It will have internal volumn and mounting depth. Then find a sub that will work, you may need a shallow mount like the JL, Kicker CVT, Memphis, etc. Then look at that woofers specs, and get an amp that will power it clean. So you may not need 0 gauge,I 'd bet 4 gauge would be plenty.
Thanks for the info. What do you think about this combo: Chevy Silverado Extended Cab 12" 99-06 Powered Kicker CVT12 Subwoofer Enclosure W/ ZX400.1 & 8 Gauge Amp...

The box volume is a little less than recommended so perhaps I can put some foam in the box. The box looks the same as one that SubThump sells. The amp is matched perfectly to the sub in both peak and RMS power. Would be be better to get a larger amp? They also sell this one with a larger amp: Chevy Silverado Extended Cab 12" 99-06 Powered Kicker CVT12 Subwoofer Enclosure W/ DX500.1 & 8 Gauge Amp...

Any benefit to the second amp other than more power?
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WICK3DxGATA
dude i really dont care how long you have been in the 12v industry.
and if you have been in that long you would realize kicker use to be good quality but its not any more (hell they even sell it at walmart now). yeah it will get the job done if your not looking for much like i said. but the best subs now are not the name brand subs that you will find at everyday shops. and yes i know anyone can blow any sub. ive blown a set of subs before.
i do like Rockford and i do like JL both are some top quality. but that still doesnt get past the point this dude asked for some help and i gave my opinion. if he doesnt like my opinion thats fine its not going to hurt my feelings i just thought i would tell him what i felt. and if you think kicker is a top competitor still thats fine you run all the kicker you want to. and for me i am going to stick with what i feel is better.
Yes, more familiar with Kicker than any brand
Kicker sells for DS coax and DX amps, 9 SKU's at WM, when they have hundreds of SKU's. Quality is the same speakers you find in Best Buy or any Kicker dealer. If Skar is your brand of choice, by all means, enjoy it....but the mainstream brands are what your company of choice copied from.Theres no denying that, and if quality was down on Kicker, why are they the largest selling subwoofer in the US?
Again, maybe read a tad more before you suggest, it doesnt meet the OP's requiremnts at all...wont fit. Now if he wanted a huge ported box in the back, maybe.

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Yes, either of those would work. I'd personally do the ZX amp, benched it will do over 400+ watts anyway at 2 ohm impedance. More than enough to rattle the truck. My son had one in his RC F150 off 420 watts, and it hammered.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Not a truck but I have one SA-D4 Sundown 12 in a ported box that it recommends on a Hifonics Brutus 1700 mono amp and it slams in a 98 civic.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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My SD2 10" is pretty nice.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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2 sundown E8v2 8"ers here in a ported subthump box. Ports are black now.







but speakers & box would put you at $300... and you have no amp yet.

Not much room for the ******* in a CC eh texasglock?!
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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nevermind, what box is that?
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blueflamed03
Yes, more familiar with Kicker than any brand
Kicker sells for DS coax and DX amps, 9 SKU's at WM, when they have hundreds of SKU's. Quality is the same speakers you find in Best Buy or any Kicker dealer. If Skar is your brand of choice, by all means, enjoy it....but the mainstream brands are what your company of choice copied from.Theres no denying that, and if quality was down on Kicker, why are they the largest selling subwoofer in the US?
Again, maybe read a tad more before you suggest, it doesnt meet the OP's requiremnts at all...wont fit. Now if he wanted a huge ported box in the back, maybe.

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Yes, either of those would work. I'd personally do the ZX amp, benched it will do over 400+ watts anyway at 2 ohm impedance. More than enough to rattle the truck. My son had one in his RC F150 off 420 watts, and it hammered.
okay sorry i didnt read the subs mounting depths but again i still never said he had to go with what i suggested. and obviously im not the only one one this forum that would suggest something thats not name brand just look at all of these guys running sundown audio.
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