Cost of last fill up??
May 21, 2008 | 05:07 PM
#46
I don't DD my truck anymore. Gave up on the idea of saving my Honda from having so many miles on it. Saving over $250 per month by driving the Honda over the truck is a bit more important to me. 
Truck gets used only for quick "around-town" trips to/from the store, etc. Thinking about carpooling with co-workers. Salary just doesn't rise with cost of living. That's sad!
May 21, 2008 | 05:15 PM
#47
Shake my head every time someone says something to the effect of the oil company being responsible for high prices (as if being the cause). It's not the oil company setting the market price of crude. Crazy, speculating economists are the ones spreading the "uproar" about lack of fuel supply for the world... demand is greater & supply is lower. Buy more product overseas, but we need more money to do so.
If the market price is adjusted, it turns into a ripple effect. No company wants to go bankrupt. In order to purchase the 60% of imported crude, money needs to be spent to acquire it. The government isn't "giving" away dinero to anyone (nor company) for free. We all know that NOTHING'S free. If oil companies went bankrupt, you wouldn't have refineries to convert that crude into consumer fuels. Then, you'd really see the economy take a hit.... much worse than now b/c the ripple ends up with consumers not being able to buy the fuel to power vehicles, to get to work, to make the money, which provides for needs due to cost of living. How's that for a ripple effect? 
*edit*
I'll save the topic of E85 mandate for another soapbox session. That's a whole different can of worms. In the meantime, let's do some research on what it costs to make ethanol compared to what you put in your vehicle now (w/ only 15% ethanol). Take note of the waste product (and lost opportunity) that remains after producing the lesser amount of ethanol at a higher cost to make it. If you think gas is high now, think about the consumer cost of E85.
Sure, it's better for the environment, but who thinks about that when they fill up a gas tank when the immediate concern is "Damn?!?! $100 for gas!!!!!" 
I know I don't... not with a 28 gallon tank in my wife's Nissan Armada (family hauler for out of town travel).
If the market price is adjusted, it turns into a ripple effect. No company wants to go bankrupt. In order to purchase the 60% of imported crude, money needs to be spent to acquire it. The government isn't "giving" away dinero to anyone (nor company) for free. We all know that NOTHING'S free. If oil companies went bankrupt, you wouldn't have refineries to convert that crude into consumer fuels. Then, you'd really see the economy take a hit.... much worse than now b/c the ripple ends up with consumers not being able to buy the fuel to power vehicles, to get to work, to make the money, which provides for needs due to cost of living.
How's that for a ripple effect? *edit*
I'll save the topic of E85 mandate for another soapbox session. That's a whole different can of worms. In the meantime, let's do some research on what it costs to make ethanol compared to what you put in your vehicle now (w/ only 15% ethanol). Take note of the waste product (and lost opportunity) that remains after producing the lesser amount of ethanol at a higher cost to make it. If you think gas is high now, think about the consumer cost of E85.
Sure, it's better for the environment, but who thinks about that when they fill up a gas tank when the immediate concern is "Damn?!?! $100 for gas!!!!!" I know I don't... not with a 28 gallon tank in my wife's Nissan Armada (family hauler for out of town travel).
Last edited by 95ImpSS; May 21, 2008 at 05:30 PM.
May 21, 2008 | 09:09 PM
#48
there is a HUGE topic on this at 78TA.com demand is going down because of prices, and supply is going up. there are huge stockpiles of oil just sitting there because they are making it faster than they sell it. the oil company's are making bigger profits than ever so no one can tell me they dont have some (not all) of the say so in pricing. either way it doesnt matter.....we need to find a way to suplement our usage of gas but the alternatives are very expensive. the tesla is the best electric option i have seen but its 100k
and about the IRS- i gross 1000 dollars more on my check and take home 500 more......i feel like im getting raped by being in a higher tax bracket
and about the IRS- i gross 1000 dollars more on my check and take home 500 more......i feel like im getting raped by being in a higher tax bracket
About time to get a vespa or something