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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Three6GMC
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I am responding because you respectfully responded so I will answer some of your questions. The word I quoted is the most important word of you entire post. Nothing is completed aside from the rear 4 link.

The exhaust(holes included), bed cover, TB, interior, heads, and anything else you can think of isn't finished. The truck hasn't been driven in 6-8 months. It is sitting in the shop I work at so nothing you have looked at is done or on the road. That is the point of this thread. Showing that all of the people freaking out about my work are freaking out over pics of "unfinished" progress photos.

The brakes started out as a simple post asking if anyone has in any car(on a few forums). Just like always this is the only site with a bunch of jack asses who are still freaking out about it. If you haven't noticed I have the personality that if you tell me it "won't" work and and if you can't show me it won't, I am willing to give it a try. I am sure you never read the fact that I talked in length(30 min or so) with a track official and he saw absolutely no issue with no front brakes. If I ever give it a shot I will do lots of testing before anything is removed.
To answer your specific question of why would I consider it
1)it is a track only truck
2)If I can keep the rears on the ground My rear brakes have more stopping force the a stock f-bodies entire system.
Old Mar 6, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by custm2500
I am responding because you respectfully responded so I will answer some of your questions. The word I quoted is the most important word of you entire post. Nothing is completed aside from the rear 4 link.

The exhaust(holes included), bed cover, TB, interior, heads, and anything else you can think of isn't finished. The truck hasn't been driven in 6-8 months. It is sitting in the shop I work at so nothing you have looked at is done or on the road. That is the point of this thread. Showing that all of the people freaking out about my work are freaking out over pics of "unfinished" progress photos.

The brakes started out as a simple post asking if anyone has in any car(on a few forums). Just like always this is the only site with a bunch of jack asses who are still freaking out about it. If you haven't noticed I have the personality that if you tell me it "won't" work and and if you can't show me it won't, I am willing to give it a try. I am sure you never read the fact that I talked in length(30 min or so) with a track official and he saw absolutely no issue with no front brakes. If I ever give it a shot I will do lots of testing before anything is removed.
To answer your specific question of why would I consider it
1)it is a track only truck
2)If I can keep the rears on the ground My rear brakes have more stopping force the a stock f-bodies entire system.
Why not cut a hole in the floor so you can use your feet when the rears dont stop ya.

You might think your rear brakes have more power than an F-body, but yours are only stopping 2 wheels not one on each corner.

What are you going to gain by losing the front brakes? .5 sec if that, prob nothing. Why not error on the side of saftey man????
Old Mar 6, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TIM Z
Why not cut a hole in the floor so you can use your feet when the rears dont stop ya.
All I could think of is Fred Flintstone! Yabba Dabba Dooo!
Old Mar 6, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ChevyTruck
All I could think of is Fred Flintstone! Yabba Dabba Dooo!
A guy at work suggested the same thing last night, why not cut a hole in the floor to stop it.
Old Mar 6, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by custm2500
2)If I can keep the rears on the ground My rear brakes have more stopping force the a stock f-bodies entire system.
WOW another prime example... They may have more stopping force BUT there is a huge weight difference between your 2500HD and a f-body even with your "weight reductions"
Old Mar 6, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TIM Z
What are you going to gain by losing the front brakes? .5 sec if that, prob nothing. Why not error on the side of safety man????
.5 is fairly possible due to the large amount weight in my front brakes. What no one is willing to look at is the fact that dragsters run rear brakes and many of them don't have or always use a shoot. Running much faster then I will. Just like anyone thinking outside of the box, no one knows if the rears will have enough weight and traction to stop the truck regardless of stopping force from the braking system.

My plan is to see how it works out just to see if It will work. Basically just blocking off the front brakes and see if it will stop sufficiently due to the HUGE denial it has any possibility of working on this site. Then hoOK them back up and look for a light weight set of calipers and lighten up the rotors.

2 reasons to look for lightweight brakes for the front is added safety event if it does work ok without them, and more so(if rears only work obviously) for burnouts. The only point raised by the track official was most any class of racing you can't break the staging beams therefore burnouts would be difficult without front brakes.
Old Mar 6, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cdub81
WOW another prime example... They may have more stopping force BUT there is a huge weight difference between your 2500HD and a f-body even with your "weight reductions"
My truck will weigh 3500lbs or so. Not much different then a full weight F-body. Lighter if I am correct.
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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I think your rear brakes will be much more likely to lock up on a hard stop than the fronts would. The rear brakes are also proportioned differently. They do not have near the % of braking that the fronts do.
Old Mar 6, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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I still don't know why someone would have to show you why no front brakes wouldn't be a good idea on a truck... Have you ever noticed how a vehicle shifts weight forward during braking? This unloads the rears quite a bit. Braking bias is normally in the neighboorhood of 70/30 front/back.... I'm also assuming the ABS will go away which will make the rears even more prone to locking up, and the truck going I to a slide because I doubt the brakeless front end will be aligned right and I really doubt you are as good of a driver as you think you are (see hubris) hopefully this happens on the track and the other guy will already be out of the shutdown area when you come sliding down the wall in a ball of flames... If this happens on a public road God help anyone who is within a mile radius of you at any given time...

If you need an explanation as to why a front brake delete is a bad idea on a 3/4 ton truck please go delete your ***** so you can't reproduce.

Any "track official" who would let something like that roll thru the gate, much less the staging lanes of his operation should be fired on the spot and never allowed near a track again.



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