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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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I hurt the engine so as I rebuild it I want to loose the hand ported 241 heads I am currently running for an aftermarket casting for the thicker decks. However, I am in a quandary if the CNC versions from PRC, TFS or AFR are worth the $800+ premium over their as-cast beginnings. As for strictly looking at advertised flow numbers, the TFS 225 CNC outflows the as cast 220 version by quite a bit where as the PRC 227 CNC and 225 as-cast don't differ much at all in cfm.

Here is a snapshot from excel comparing the flow data of the TFS and PRC offerings...


I am just wondering on an as-cast version, when they cnc the combustion chambers and do the valve seats, are the bowls blended as well? Would an as-cast runner be more or less consistent between all runners as a CNC'ed runner? (This is an issue I think I am currently having with my hand ports is #2 is getting significantly more air that the others.) These are the biggest concerns I have with an as-cast in a force induction setup.
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 08:32 AM
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Pony up for aftermarket castings for thicker deck. Good to see you think like me. Any set back is a set up for a comeback! Good luck man!
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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prc 225 as cast looks like an easy decision for F/I. that graph makes me love my CNC TFS225 heads

some of the FI guys on tech are doing awesome with ls3/vic jr setups. not sure i'm ready to jump on the LS3/L92 N/A bandwagon but it's hard to argue their FI results.
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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Just food for though.. its not always about cfm but rather port design and velocity.
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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What did you do to your motor?
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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TXsilverado
prc 225 as cast looks like an easy decision for F/I. that graph makes me love my CNC TFS225 heads

some of the FI guys on tech are doing awesome with ls3/vic jr setups. not sure i'm ready to jump on the LS3/L92 N/A bandwagon but it's hard to argue their FI results.
I am not as concerned about intake flow numbers as I am exhaust which is where the CNC TFS really shines above the others.
I have to stick with a cathedral port to keep the KB otherwise I would be looking at some rectangular port heads too.


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Just food for though.. its not always about cfm but rather port design and velocity.
Which is exactly the reason for the question at hand and why I am wanting to stay with a head in the 220ish cc range.

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What did you do to your motor?
Not exactly sure yet. I have a knock on the passenger side lots of metal in the oil and filter. Thinking either a bearing or cam/lifter issue considering all the metal is silver, some iron, some aluminum. I will be pulling it this weekend to start going thru it.
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 07:21 AM
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No other opinions on AS CAST vs CNC for forced induction?
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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It looks like the CNC version has a slight flow advantage so why not go with them? I would also think that runner volume is more consistent as well.
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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CNC version is a lot more expensive.
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Cnc...
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