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05GMC4.8 09-14-2017 07:42 AM

No one to stir the pot, but my denali is about 35+ at idle with about 88k miles. Maybe mine was babied by the previous owner

Chevy305 09-23-2017 03:35 AM

That relief valve is there to provide consistent oil pressure to the VVT cam phaser so it can reliably advance/retard the cam right? (Same thing with the DOD in the 5.3 right)

1994Vmax 09-23-2017 10:39 AM

The relief is there because GM uses the same oil pan across the board on the trucks..... hell they do it on the cars too. The LS3 has no VVT or AFM and it still has the relief on the Camaro's at least because they use it on the L99. The only reason I have been told it is there is for Active fuel management and limit the upper end of the oil pressure spectrum for the lifters. Is it there for VVT? I don't think so... the oil pressure swings are the same up until above whatever it relieves at and you can see it's different for everyone. By 55 psi the cam would be at max retard anyhow lol.

I like how they really didn't change anything with the AFM system or the VVT on the Gen V engines and they will peg the gauge at WOT.. they do run an electronic relief that limits oil pressure to about 3700 rpm and then it closes and allows the engine to make whatever it will above that.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...-valve-523970/

There is a GM explanation on that thread and they specifically call it the Active Fuel Management oil pressure relief valve. On the later ones they have a shroud around the bottom of the relief that directs oil back into the pan. My LS3 has the shroud but the older gen IV truck engines I had ( newest was like 08/09) did not.

Chevy305 09-23-2017 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by 1994Vmax (Post 5419817)
The relief is there because GM uses the same oil pan across the board on the trucks..... hell they do it on the cars too. The LS3 has no VVT or AFM and it still has the relief on the Camaro's at least because they use it on the L99. The only reason I have been told it is there is for Active fuel management and limit the upper end of the oil pressure spectrum for the lifters. Is it there for VVT? I don't think so... the oil pressure swings are the same up until above whatever it relieves at and you can see it's different for everyone. By 55 psi the cam would be at max retard anyhow lol.

I like how they really didn't change anything with the AFM system or the VVT on the Gen V engines and they will peg the gauge at WOT.. they do run an electronic relief that limits oil pressure to about 3700 rpm and then it closes and allows the engine to make whatever it will above that.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...-valve-523970/

There is a GM explanation on that thread and they specifically call it the Active Fuel Management oil pressure relief valve. On the later ones they have a shroud around the bottom of the relief that directs oil back into the pan. My LS3 has the shroud but the older gen IV truck engines I had ( newest was like 08/09) did not.

Thanks for the clarification!

DieselDoctor 10-12-2019 06:19 PM

Help! 6.2 liter low oil pressure!
 
I have a 2007 Yukon XL Denali 6.2 liter. I have replaced the oil pressure sensor, the oil pickup tube and oring, oil pump, and deleted the relief valve and the truck still has issues. The oil pressure is around 55-60 when cold. As the engine reaches operating temp, the oil slowly drops. Once the engine reaches operating temp the most it will build is around 25 psi. At idle it will drop to around 0-5 psi. I don't know what else to change at this point. Any ideas?

smokeshow 10-12-2019 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by DieselDoctor (Post 5470359)
I have a 2007 Yukon XL Denali 6.2 liter. I have replaced the oil pressure sensor, the oil pickup tube and oring, oil pump, and deleted the relief valve and the truck still has issues. The oil pressure is around 55-60 when cold. As the engine reaches operating temp, the oil slowly drops. Once the engine reaches operating temp the most it will build is around 25 psi. At idle it will drop to around 0-5 psi. I don't know what else to change at this point. Any ideas?

Most likely a groove in the cam bearing that feeds the VVT actuator. Seen it plenty of times. You can bandaid it with heavier weight oil but the real fix is replacing the cam bearings.

1994Vmax 10-13-2019 12:09 AM

An old necro thread of my own lol. Well now I own a 6.2 as well being a 2013 L9H max trailer extended cab. Oil pressure is better than the one back in 2017 but still crap. I measured the pressure manually at the oil filter and it varies from the sending unit by 15 psi at times or more lol. I trust my annually calibrated 5000 dollar deadweight a lot more than GMs 20 dollar transducer. I swapped sending units and it reads the same. The engine has a weird dull thud in the bottom end and oil analysis showed higher than normal iron in the oil. This truck has around 57000 miles on it to boot. Gives me an excuse to try and use the new 6.6 rotating assembly (not pistons obviously) in my other core 6.2 and build an LS 6.6.

warriorpluto 10-30-2019 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by smokeshow (Post 5470360)
Most likely a groove in the cam bearing that feeds the VVT actuator. Seen it plenty of times. You can bandaid it with heavier weight oil but the real fix is replacing the cam bearings.

Ive heard of this happening on afm only engines as well. Which cam bearing need to be changed? Just the first one? Just wanted to know just in case i run across the problem. Can it be done inside the truck?

1994Vmax 11-02-2019 12:20 PM

Well my L9H gets worse by the day. Now it has a loud rattle on cold start that takes a good minute to quiet down so it can warm up and go into it's normal dull thud it makes lol. I am glad I don't actually care because if some average poor schmuck bought this truck they would be losing their mind over paying likely a dealer to put a long block in it. Me though.... it's more how long can it make these noises and still not use oil, run extremely hard for a stock tune to 5800 rpm and last haha.

madmann26 11-03-2019 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by 1994Vmax (Post 5471338)
Well my L9H gets worse by the day. Now it has a loud rattle on cold start that takes a good minute to quiet down so it can warm up and go into it's normal dull thud it makes lol. I am glad I don't actually care because if some average poor schmuck bought this truck they would be losing their mind over paying likely a dealer to put a long block in it. Me though.... it's more how long can it make these noises and still not use oil, run extremely hard for a stock tune to 5800 rpm and last haha.

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