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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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FYI - all C5 calipers are identical. The Z06 is just powdercoated red. C6 calipers are functionally and dimensionally identical but have additional ribbing for reinforcement. They all fit and function the same.
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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fountain333
I appreciate your expertise with my driving style and cornering ability of my street driven drag truck with skinny front tires.
Sarcasm is always so much fun on the internet. Good for you.
It doesn't really take expertise to know what tires do, or require the knowledge of how you drive to know there's a reason that nobody puts skinny ones on for street driving, especially if they think they are going to increase the hp and tq.


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I also thank you for the education on how lighter components will decrease stopping ability....
That's not what I said is it. (When you have a good point to make, you can stick with the truth).


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Im thinking that calipers that came on C5 Z06 and bace model C6 corvettes should provide adequate stopping power as it'd doubtful that gm put lightweight components on their flagship performance vehicle with the adverse effect of poor stopping abilites.
You go ahead and have fun trying to adapt those brakes to fit. Those aren't even the same brakes that are in that link. Or is it part of your master plan to adapt the 5 lug of the c5?


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Im not sure if you missed the part where I had explained my unwillingness to put drag brakes on the front of the vehicle because of their poor performance on the street or it was just not comprehended?
Oh I get it; you just want to drive around with skinny tires on the front, so whatever brakes you put on there will be near worthless anyways.


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I thought "street driven drag truck" pretty much ruled out me taking it to any road cross events or to the tail of the dragon anytime soon. Usually when someone puts skinny light front wheels and tires on a vehicle, its given that it no longer carves corners and is driven knowing that stopping and cornering are not its strong suit. Any how Thanks for the tips!
You seem to have trouble comprehending how much effect its going to take you out of all driving. Great idea though to save a few pounds. You can either change wheels and tires at the strip so you drive around with worse than factory brakes, or you can leave those skinnies on, and drive around requiring twice the distance to stop, and cut your speed in half to turn. You're frickin brilliant.




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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by adriver
Sarcasm is always so much fun on the internet. Good for you.
It doesn't really take expertise to know what tires do, or require the knowledge of how you drive to know there's a reason that nobody puts skinny ones on for street driving, especially if they think they are going to increase the hp and tq.
The fact that you even stated anything about hp and torque when it comes to tires pretty much proves you should stop posting....unless this has to do with this expertise you have with skinny front tires? Maybe you figured out how to have tires improve hp and torque? lol common man... (joe biden voice)


go ahead and have fun trying to adapt those brakes to fit. Those aren't even the same brakes that are in that link. Or is it part of your master plan to adapt the 5 lug of the c5?
It is those CALIPERS I attached a photo of that I am talking about, You do realize that a caliper is different than a rotor? What does the lug pattern have do do with calipers at all. Bro you are lost....

I get it; you just want to drive around with skinny tires on the front, so whatever brakes you put on there will be near worthless anyways.
Driven many, many vehicles with 5" wide front tires on them around on the street. In fact you will find that plenty of economy vehicles have smaller then 5" tires installed on them from the factory and on that same note, a spare tire that come on most vehicles are far skinner then a 5" wide real tire. Oh yea thats right, it says to only mount those spare tires on the rear of a vehicle because when put on the front a vehicle will act like it is on ice..... Its almost as if your brain has become detached and is no longer functional .... weird

seem to have trouble comprehending how much effect its going to take you out of all driving. Great idea though to save a few pounds. You can either change wheels and tires at the strip so you drive around with worse than factory brakes, or you can leave those skinnies on, and drive around requiring twice the distance to stop, and cut your speed in half to turn. You're frickin brilliant.
See this is where you are contracting yourself and further proves your comprehension skills are possibly still developing.... I dont know how to move quotes around to make this easier to read as i dont live on these forums nor do i post a ton so bare with me here as we know your comprehension skills are not up to par..... you quoted me saying that "I also thank you for the education on how lighter components will decrease stopping ability...." and you reply by saying "That's not what I said is it. (When you have a good point to make, you can stick with the truth)." Then in your same post you say "You can either change wheels and tires at the strip so you drive around with worse than factory brakes" Worse then factory brakes implies that the calipers that im looking for are worse then the factory calipers that came on the truck..... Remember calipers and rotors are different ... Maybe you just dont understand braking systems at all. That could be the problem...... I would suggest to just posting about the original post rather then putting in your .02 (two cents to help the comprehension impaired also meaning your opinion ) Its easier and cleaner in these forums then trying to cut someone down on a decision they make about their personal vehicle especially when you have no idea what you are talking about. I will finish off this post with photos of cars out of control on ice driving around on skinny front tires..... and these fellas had the audacity to pull trailers with skinny front tires..... They must all be brilliant too!


I guess i needed to reply with the multi quote button rather then the quote button to make this post appear properly but i have no want to re make it. lastly, when I posted this I noticed the "closing statement" or whatever it says at the bottom of all your posts. It states "learning as i go" I would suggest you really apply that here and stop with opinions..... I promise it will make your life so much easier. Nobody gives a crap what you think. People come here for real info not your opinion unless asked for and im quite sure nobody will ask for your opinion on anything.....





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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 01:38 PM
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oof that improper way of quoting right there

if you edit your post and take out the slash in the first bracket you will be able to quote the post like driver did above you btw
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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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I haven't run across a steel/cast iron caliper for these trucks, ever. 800/900/K/T all have been aluminum 2 pot or aluminum 4 pot that I have seen (or they are all aluminized and look aluminum to me. I haven't tested with a magnet)

The C5/C6 Base/ C6Z51 calipers will fit the Z06 rotors with the appropriate bracket, I am unsure if that bracket is the same as the 6 pot ones. I have a C5 with Wilwoods, so my stock brakes didn't get the thorough look through. I cannot claim to be a Corvette brake expert

I do know that the rotor hat offset is very shallow, and with that in mind I have my doubts of the Cx 2 pot caliper being a direct bolt on for truck hubs. Maybeeeee if you redrilled the C5 rotor (smallest fronts), assuming the caliper mounting offset is within the adjustability built into the slide pins

When I put C5 brakes on the front of my Buick, 17 was the absolute bare minimum that would fit. My actual C5 has 18s on it to clear the Wilwoods (that have C6Z06 front and C6Z51 rear rotors)

I think its a neat idea you have, but it is unlikely that it will be a bolt on mod for you
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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisbequick
FYI - all C5 calipers are identical. The Z06 is just powdercoated red. C6 calipers are functionally and dimensionally identical but have additional ribbing for reinforcement. They all fit and function the same.
I dunno C5 vs C6 but OP specifically stated C6. I suppose there is a difference as the Rudy brackets are for the C6 Z06 stuff.. haven't looked into it as I'm not gonna do that conversion (I'm more interested in the GMPP Brembo 6 piston / 16" rotor setup) so don't slay me if I got details wrong.

Originally Posted by fountain333
The fact that you even stated anything about hp and torque when it comes to tires pretty much proves you should stop posting....unless this has to do with this expertise you have with skinny front tires? Maybe you figured out how to have tires improve hp and torque? lol common man... (joe biden voice)
No sense arguing with that dude. He's a professional punchbowl turd; if you "win" it just means you took his spot.. not something to aspire to. You can't tell him anything; he already knows it all...despite his sig

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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by shakenfake
oof that improper way of quoting right there

if you edit your post and take out the slash in the first bracket you will be able to quote the post like driver did above you btw

Thank you! I figured it was something little that it didnt like.. it was annoying to not have it correct but figured it was more difficult then it proved to be. Im "learning as i go" i suppose lol
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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 02:59 PM
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@someotherguy Can you send me a link to that GMPP Brembo 6 piston? I've never seen that before I don't think
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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by shakenfake
@someotherguy Can you send me a link to that GMPP Brembo 6 piston? I've never seen that before I don't think
It's a beast.. they have them with Chevy logos or Cadillac logos, I think also GMC. Anyway Chevy part # is 84263234

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-84263234

Or, haven't ever done business with these guys so I don't know their rep - price is significantly cheaper - https://www.shopchevyparts.com/perfo...-92294502.html

Bolt-on for the late model stuff, but considering the similarities from GMT800-up, should fit GMT800's fine as well. Haven't proved it yet but I'm reasonably sure this kit will easily install on my '06 SS.

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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 04:14 PM
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Well hurry up and find out Richard!!!!
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