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Old May 5, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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yes.
you want the X as far forward as possible.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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Don't "X" pipes make a better sound, where "H" pipe makes more power?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by honeycutt.dewey
just fyi, you might want to step up to a lvl 7 tranny if you plan to add a tvs on top. otherwise it sounds like you've got a good plan.
as far as the x-pipe goes, it helps add power by equalizing the backpressure between the two exhaust manifolds. on top of that, it makes you exhaust flow better in general and sound better.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 04BlackSilverado
Don't "X" pipes make a better sound, where "H" pipe makes more power?
no.




well, not as far as i understand the physics of exhaust scavenging.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by trever1t
yes.
you want the X as far forward as possible.
why is that ...?? and do you mean closer to the headers or farter from the headers..??
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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NASCAR has been using X-pipes since 1991 and they found that the closer they were to the engine the more HP they made. On a 750 HP engine they would make 8-10 more horses however when they were added just before they exited on the side, the HP gain was less than 1. On a truck, if you add an X pipe after the cats you get a mellow sound and little hp. The 2011 Corvette has an X pipe option on the ZR1 and Z06 after the cats but are not advertising any HP gains as I recall.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Don't the exhaust pipes have to be equal length for the x-pipe to function as designed? So if you put the x in place of the y, it will change the tone, but not really help scavenging so much?
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Originally Posted by trever1t
no.

well, not as far as i understand the physics of exhaust scavenging.

Your right, I double checked this time, and I had it backwards.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lablackbeast
why is that ...?? and do you mean closer to the headers or farter from the headers..??
As close to the header collectors as possible.

Originally Posted by budhayes3
Don't the exhaust pipes have to be equal length for the x-pipe to function as designed? So if you put the x in place of the y, it will change the tone, but not really help scavenging so much?
Eh, not necessarily. Ideally we'd all love to have 100% equal length exhaust, but anything less than equal length just lessens the efficiency some but doesn't totally negate the effects. Having the x-pipe is still worth it.

An equalizer pipe, be it x- or h-, does just that: equalizes the pressures/volumes of exhaust gases passing through the pipes. The closer to the collectors we go, the hotter the gases are and the better flowing they are, hence why an equalizer pipe is more effective here than farther away from the collectors.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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My thinking about X pipes is they introduce extra bends into the exhaust system. I would rather have a properly tuned Y pipe setup than an X or H. I'm running dual 3" into a single 4" Y then into a Hooker Maxflow muffler and it is very mellow for most driving and at WOT it screams like a NASCAR.
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