Transgo Shift Kit Install
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What a pain! That thing has tons of pieces to start with. My kit was actually made in 98, got it off eBay. I talked to a couple of tranny shops and Transgo and they all said I should be fine with that old of a kit.
I drilled the small holes in the seperator plate, there are 2 options, street and HD use or custom high stall converter/Race only use. I did the street/HD setup. The kit said use 2 washers, but I only used 1. I also installed the vette intermediate servo at the same time. The 1-2 shift is firm and quick, but isn't jaw jerking hard. If for some reason, the pan comes back off, I'll prolly yank that other washer out too. The 2-3 shift is nice quick and firm too. It kinda slides into OD though which is OK with me.
Only problem I got now is it seems like 4th doesn't release like it should. If you manually pull it back down to 3, it feels like something is in a bind. Also, the TCC locks solid now. Used to .. it would kinda go in between lock and not, and then it would lock. Now this one just locks. I am going to call Transgo tromorrow and find out what I need to do about that.
I drilled the small holes in the seperator plate, there are 2 options, street and HD use or custom high stall converter/Race only use. I did the street/HD setup. The kit said use 2 washers, but I only used 1. I also installed the vette intermediate servo at the same time. The 1-2 shift is firm and quick, but isn't jaw jerking hard. If for some reason, the pan comes back off, I'll prolly yank that other washer out too. The 2-3 shift is nice quick and firm too. It kinda slides into OD though which is OK with me.
Only problem I got now is it seems like 4th doesn't release like it should. If you manually pull it back down to 3, it feels like something is in a bind. Also, the TCC locks solid now. Used to .. it would kinda go in between lock and not, and then it would lock. Now this one just locks. I am going to call Transgo tromorrow and find out what I need to do about that.
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OK ... figured out what the problem was. The band was never letting go of the drum properly. The instructions called for 2 spacers to go in the servo cover which pushed the intermediate servos over onto the band more. I don't know why it was doing like it was. After testing more, it would feel like it was dragging on the 4-3 downshift, but let loose once you dropped it into 2. That is the only time you could feel it dragging.
The tech support guy had me remove the spacers, which the instructions called for and didn't say were only for a worn out band. Once I got it back together afterwards, I took it for a test drive and all is good now.
I've noticed that the 1-2 shift isn't as stiff now either, which I like. I thought it was a little hard before, but I guess that was from the band never truely letting go.
I will get to play with it some more when I get the exhaust back on.
The tech support guy had me remove the spacers, which the instructions called for and didn't say were only for a worn out band. Once I got it back together afterwards, I took it for a test drive and all is good now.
I've noticed that the 1-2 shift isn't as stiff now either, which I like. I thought it was a little hard before, but I guess that was from the band never truely letting go.
I will get to play with it some more when I get the exhaust back on.
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Forgot to mention about the torque converter thing too. They called that inbetween lockup feeling a partial apply. They say their kit fixes that. I'm not sure if I like that part yet or not. If I had EDIT and could adjust the tcc lockup tables some, that would be all the better.
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Glad to hear all is good. I have that partial TCC apply you are talking about and it drives me nuts. If I am just cruising, the rpms surge a little right around the lockup speed. I think I am going to order me one soon and put it in as soon as I can after I get my new tranny put in this week.
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Here's the thing about the partial apply. The stock tables have it lock at part throttle anytime you hit 3rd gear over 40 mph. Over 70 and it won't unlock. It will absolutely kill your 70mph punch, like for passing on a 2 lane highway. That being said ... if you have EDIT and don't mind spending time to adjust those tranny shifting and tcc tables, then it's a great thing.
Another thing about it is with the TT3000 it's a bigger rpm drop when the tcc locks in 4th than it is on the 3-4 shift when cruising around town at part throttle.
That being said ... I think I would have rather kept it partially looking up than a solid lock.
Another thing about it is with the TT3000 it's a bigger rpm drop when the tcc locks in 4th than it is on the 3-4 shift when cruising around town at part throttle.
That being said ... I think I would have rather kept it partially looking up than a solid lock.
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Here's the thing about the partial apply. The stock tables have it lock at part throttle anytime you hit 3rd gear over 40 mph. Over 70 and it won't unlock. It will absolutely kill your 70mph punch, like for passing on a 2 lane highway. That being said ... if you have EDIT and don't mind spending time to adjust those tranny shifting and tcc tables, then it's a great thing.
Do you know what exactly to change?
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Since I put the 3000 stall in, my truck has been surging at 30 mph with the shifter in 3rd. Is this the partial apply you guys talk about? It is not a random surge, it has a pattern of about 100 rpm surge repeating every 2 seconds. I thought something was wrong but is this normal?
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Since I put the 3000 stall in, my truck has been surging at 30 mph with the shifter in 3rd. Is this the partial apply you guys talk about? It is not a random surge, it has a pattern of about 100 rpm surge repeating every 2 seconds. I thought something was wrong but is this normal?
Another thing it does is it feels like a 1/4 of a shift at around 80 in third, then you can feel it lock completely, then the shift.
Yes, there is a table called TCC lockup or something very close to that in EDIT on the tranny pages.
HitMan .. the servos really weren't that bad. I was skeptical about them, just doing the servo install, back in the day, but I wouldn't hesitate at all doing them now. It looks like they notched the undercarriage out just enough to get them out without having to take the E-clip off. The OD servo and the intermediate housing has to come off though.
After being able to drive it around some (getting the exhaust back on and not running open header), I got a chance to play with it more now that it's all working right. If I'm at 71 in D and nail it, it will unlock and downshift to 3rd. once 3rd gets to about 4k it will lock and bring it down to around 3600, which isn't as bad as it was when it would stay locked. If I have the selector in 3 and nail it at 71, it still doesn't unlock. Again ... I think I still need EDIT.
Cash .. I didn't have as much trouble with that surge your talking about if I kept it in 3rd around town, but I never drive 30. The lowest speed limit here is 35, and I always do at least 5 over. If I have it in D and am going about 40 it will surge, a little worse than what you are saying, but dropping into 3rd cured it. That does no more with the shift kit.




