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Old 07-13-2004, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hyper
please notify me which bolton this is..
You got a 5.3 by mistake....
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i got the 5.3 my friend had a 4.8
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Originally Posted by Juggernaut
Ahh yes, the ol' 327 block & 283 crank combo(DZ). The stuff dreams are made of.
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Nice wasn't it. My brother had a 1967 Camaro. He got his hands on a 1969 Z28 302 motor. Then went nuts on it. He added 13:1 pistons, a solid lift cam, an Eldebrock intake and a large Holley to the fast revving bore & stroke formula. The crank and rods were not OE either. Along with the Hayes Scatter shielded clutch bolted to a Muncie M22 close ratio 4 speed, going into a 4:11 12 bolt rear diff.
Where we lived, Brandon Fla, a joining Seffner Fla where Don Garlits was reeking havoc at the time, He was never put down until it got tired. The machine ran real strong for almost a year. I rode with him in a couple of close races where I thought it was gonna blow. He said it was gonna blow up or win! One real close one was to a Hemi Cuda. We knew it had headers but couldn't tell if there was more. His head light was at the front wheel axle. Man! I haven't relived that in years.
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
so crank and rods cost $800 extra? Looks like GM really pulled a fast one with this engine option...
no but the tq curve is worth the money. if you are splitting hairs of 800 dollars on these expensive new trucks, then you need to either buy a used one or just buy the 4.8L and be happy.

go out and buy a set of rods and a crankshaft for a 5.3L motor. maybe you can do it cheaper

also the chevy 302 motor and this 5.3/4.8L have as much in common as the 426 hemi and the new 5.7L hemi.
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Originally Posted by 02Silverado
The Difference in the 2 engines is the crank and rods. Pistons are the same.

325 = 3.780" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LM7" 5.3 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)

293 = 3.780" x 3.27" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LR4" 4.8 Liter Vortec, 6.278" rod)


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The bore is the the same, but the pistons are not. The 4.8 pistons are flat top, and the 5.3 are dished.

So, the entire rotating assembly is different.
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http://www.pera.org/CoreTalk/eb120317.htm
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Wow, I'm sorry I missed this thread yesterday. Lets see....


Originally Posted by GMCtrk
so the only difference btw the 4.8 and 5.3 is a different length pushrod????
Pushrods are part of the valvetrain and have nothing to do with the volume of the motor. Connecting Rods are part of the rotating assembly, connecting the piston to the crank. Connecting rods don't directly change the volume of the motor either.


Originally Posted by nekkid_hill_billy
i believe you both are wrong...the 5.3 has different piston rods resulting in a different stroke....and if i am not mistaking the crank is different
Almost... The crank is different in the 4.8 which accounts for the difference in stroke. The stroke is the amount of up and down travel the piston moves, which is a direct relation to the crank. The 4.8 has a shorter stroke than the 5.3, which accounts for the .5 liter difference in the two motors.


Originally Posted by vortec350
I beleive the only thing is the bore is smaller
Bore on both motors are the same as they are the same physical block.


Originally Posted by Deckhand
you are right.
No he's not.


Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Yes, shorter stroke results in different rotating assy...it could be the same rods (with shorter crank) just different pistons, but I doubt that.
You got it. Its a completely different setup. It would be possible to use a similar rod by adjusting the pin height on the piston. The 5.3 piston will travel 9mm further down the bore than the 4.8 will. The piston in the 5.3 has a dish to make the CR 9.5:1, but with the 4.8s shorter stroke, it doesn't need a dish to have a 9.5:1 CR.


Originally Posted by Tiburon
I was under the impression it was both, a different crank and shorter piston rods.
As above: different crank, longer connecting rod, different pistons. GM used a longer rod with the shorter stroke to keep the piston at the proper deck height.


Originally Posted by O3GMC
just read on another thread that the 5.3 pistons are dished and 4.8's are flat......

so the differences are stroke, crank and pistons? bore is the same?

Yes (and rods) and Yes.


Originally Posted by 02Silverado
The Difference in the 2 engines is the crank and rods. Pistons are the same. ...
As stated earlier, the piston is different since it doesn't have a dish needed to achieve the correct compression ratio.
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Oops. Took me too long to type that last one. Scream beat me to it.

Scream, very nice link. Thats a great resource comparing the two motors.
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Seeing that made me realize how easy it would be to pass a 4.8 off as a 5.3.
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Its standard procedure for bigger, more powerful motors to cost more. The 4.8 has lower emissions and better fuel economy and GM needs to sell fuel efficient combos to meet CAFE requirements. 1 mpg is a big deal here.


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