Even my head porter doesn't use a tool-uses a deep socket.

 

Don't wanna hijack...but when I go to swap on some PAC 1218's I will be doing seals also since the heads have bee sitting for 5+ years and I don't want to take a chance that they'll be dried out. I've always just installed valve seals with a deep socket until they "bottomed out"...will the seals that I do be the same as these and use the same method?

 

NO, your heads are completely different then all the other LS heads in the world...

 

LOL...I mean that I thought that the beehive spring uses a different seal than the duals? Don't some applications have the seal built into the valve spring seat, or something like that? I know that there are two different style seals available...

 

yes the duals use a different seat that comes with their kit, and i believe they are a different height. the stock style one piece seat/seal are what you use with beehives..
and yes there is a intake and exhaust seat/seal if thats what you meant by two different types available..?
edit- saw your question in another thread and yes there was two different ones, they(GM) switched to a one piece seat/seal, from a two piece, not sure on the yr change..

 

The seals in the picture are the exact same ones I bought and am running with my PAC 1518's...

Are those the ones that came with the dual spring kit?????

 

Yea, I just replied in the other thread also...

I'll bet that even though there was a production change along the line (01?), you could still use the separate seals/seats with beehives, as mentioned, the earlier ones came that way. Pretty sure that my 5.3 has the separate seals/seats from the factory...well, obviously you can use them, you are

 

Heres a pic of the pat gold retainers versus the stock retainer/seal combo

 

that vs. this?

 

There was some debate over the stock setup versus the pat gold and pac beehives, the above picture is the stock ratainer/seal on the end with the new retainer besides it. The new retainer doesnt have the seal on it, but you can see it in the first picture I posted...