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I have some exhaust leaking at the manifold to pipe connection but before it leaked I was still throwing a code. If it's because I removed my cats wouldn't my left bank sensor be going off to. Do you think swapping the sensors, right for left and left for right, would be a good troubleshoot start point? Can you delete the front sensor inputs with a tune?
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Originally Posted by TX_Z71
I have some exhaust leaking at the manifold to pipe connection but before it leaked I was still throwing a code. If it's because I removed my cats wouldn't my left bank sensor be going off to. Do you think swapping the sensors, right for left and left for right, would be a good troubleshoot start point? Can you delete the front sensor inputs with a tune?
Anyways, not always. I wouldn't bother switching them (I have HPT, maybe for you it would be better to try). If you did take the time and switch them and the code changed to the other bank...then yep it's the o2 getting tired of switching more than likely. IMO you'll probably be chasing your tail cuz more often than not you'll read a thread online where others have the same codes and 99.99% of the time it's heat related, not the sensor itself.
Second question, yep. In the tune you'd just tell the pcm to ignore those codes.
Fix that leak! Your front o2's aren't getting the correct information to give you a drivable vehicle.
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if you fixed the leak, try to reset the pcm using the fuse method or disconnect the battery to clear the code. then wait to see if it comes out again.
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fyi, i had that code on for alot of months after my header install. one day it just went away.. that reminds me, did you use any kind of silicone during all of this stuff you did..
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fyi, i had that code on for alot of months after my header install. one day it just went away.. that reminds me, did you use any kind of silicone during all of this stuff you did..
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the leak wasn't was causing the code, just misleading air/fuel readings for the o2's.
If you are in the market for a tune, get the tuner to get rid of heat performance/switching codes for the front o2's.
ooooooorrrrr.....buy corvette REAR o2 sensors and see if they help. They run a little hotter, I believe you just match the year so that the plug is the same. Do some thread searching on here and ls1tech.com for the exact bosch part number....13xxx something. They are't definite fixes, but plenty of stories to say they worked. With just gutted cats and no headers, good chance they would work.
If you are in the market for a tune, get the tuner to get rid of heat performance/switching codes for the front o2's.
ooooooorrrrr.....buy corvette REAR o2 sensors and see if they help. They run a little hotter, I believe you just match the year so that the plug is the same. Do some thread searching on here and ls1tech.com for the exact bosch part number....13xxx something. They are't definite fixes, but plenty of stories to say they worked. With just gutted cats and no headers, good chance they would work.
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Originally Posted by dewmanshu
the leak wasn't was causing the code, just misleading air/fuel readings for the o2's.
If you are in the market for a tune, get the tuner to get rid of heat performance/switching codes for the front o2's.
ooooooorrrrr.....buy corvette REAR o2 sensors and see if they help. They run a little hotter, I believe you just match the year so that the plug is the same. Do some thread searching on here and ls1tech.com for the exact bosch part number....13xxx something. They are't definite fixes, but plenty of stories to say they worked. With just gutted cats and no headers, good chance they would work.
If you are in the market for a tune, get the tuner to get rid of heat performance/switching codes for the front o2's.
ooooooorrrrr.....buy corvette REAR o2 sensors and see if they help. They run a little hotter, I believe you just match the year so that the plug is the same. Do some thread searching on here and ls1tech.com for the exact bosch part number....13xxx something. They are't definite fixes, but plenty of stories to say they worked. With just gutted cats and no headers, good chance they would work.
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Originally Posted by rgvsierra
if the leak was there, wouldent that also be cooling off the sensor? with it also being leaky, air would go in tricking the sensor to always show lean? which what the code is about, lean to rich switching...
i am picturing his leak somewhere before the sensor. A leak is letting air out of the exhaust path. To me it just means that the sensor is getting less air/fuel...less things to read when it should be reading more...there is the tricking part...the sensor is telling the pcm the wrong info, some of that info is escaping out the leak.
The air or exhaust moving by sensor to keep it warm enough is still there...just less so many parts per billion. LOL I guess it could be just that much cooler to make a difference, he still has the code though.
Think of it this way, how many threads or stories have you read of people with leaking exhausts (before the sensor) that have the switching code? But mess with that cat and/or headers and you'll usually see it.
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Originally Posted by rgvsierra
lean to rich switching...
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Originally Posted by dewmanshu
not sure how you mean.
i am picturing his leak somewhere before the sensor. A leak is letting air out of the exhaust path. To me it just means that the sensor is getting less air/fuel...less things to read when it should be reading more...there is the tricking part...the sensor is telling the pcm the wrong info, some of that info is escaping out the leak.
The air or exhaust moving by sensor to keep it warm enough is still there...just less so many parts per billion. LOL I guess it could be just that much cooler to make a difference, he still has the code though.
Think of it this way, how many threads or stories have you read of people with leaking exhausts (before the sensor) that have the switching code? But mess with that cat and/or headers and you'll usually see it.
i am picturing his leak somewhere before the sensor. A leak is letting air out of the exhaust path. To me it just means that the sensor is getting less air/fuel...less things to read when it should be reading more...there is the tricking part...the sensor is telling the pcm the wrong info, some of that info is escaping out the leak.
The air or exhaust moving by sensor to keep it warm enough is still there...just less so many parts per billion. LOL I guess it could be just that much cooler to make a difference, he still has the code though.
Think of it this way, how many threads or stories have you read of people with leaking exhausts (before the sensor) that have the switching code? But mess with that cat and/or headers and you'll usually see it.
if there is a leak anywhere near the sensor, not only does air escape, (and yes cause funny 02 reading), but air does also enter the stream causing the false reading, which would trick the senor to not go to lean/rich switching.
do a search on tech, i found alot of posts on those codes when i had mine, there is plenty of info there.