damn near stripped them completely w/the allen, still wont come off

 

Tell me about them!!! I had the same problem. Try a Torx bit. I was able to get two off using it.. Iit took me a dremmel tool and a few hours for the last one.

 

Try a 6 point 15mm socket. That is what I always use-those allen heads strip out too darn easy.

 

word - i used a 15 mm socket 1/2 driver, came right off! remove your starter (if you havent already) - its easier.

 

Why would you even use a Torx bit when you can use a socket? Just wondering! I have never had any luck with Torx bits. I never understood why people use an open box wrench when they can use a socket either. Just does not make sense to me. Not trying to put any one down, I just don't understand why someone would do it the hard way.

Use a socket!

 

can't use a socket when the bolt head is round

might have to weld on another nut and try to get them off or cut that **** off

which i'm willing to do