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TXsilverado 03-02-2010 10:40 PM

140,000 mile LS1 engine leak down results
 
a little history behind the motor. previous owner ran this motor with a 237/242, .603"/.609", 113 LSA and a 15o shot of nitrous in his 99 camaro.

since ive had it, its had a 226 cam with patriot stage 2 heads and a 231/239 .617/.623 111+2 lsa cam with a 150 shot. this motor has had atleast 200lbs of nitrous blown through it.

and for the leak down results...

cylinder 2 7% cylinder 1 7%
cylinder 4 5% cylinder 3 8%
cylinder 6 7% cylinder 5 6%
cylinder 8 7% cylinder 7 9%

i am happy to say the least. i did find one issue though. i guess this is what i get for running about 10 bottles of nitrous through on the same set of plugs plugs lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h/6326ebf1.jpg

00ChevyScott 03-02-2010 10:41 PM

I'd run em again.

lablackbeast 03-02-2010 10:46 PM

so what are you going to do now...??

Mangled03gmc 03-02-2010 10:50 PM

LMAO that is the new big gap plugs from ngk.. Well to say the least, that is not bad for results... New plugs, let it eat again :D

SLOXCAB 03-02-2010 10:51 PM

Probably buy a case of plugs and turn up the shot

TXsilverado 03-02-2010 10:55 PM

compression test i guess. its still blowing the dipstick tube out every time i take it out and abuse it.

sixltrbtr 03-02-2010 10:56 PM

That motor is in great shape for so much nitrous. Is this on stock pistons and rings?

LsxCody 03-02-2010 11:02 PM

plugs look alil worn lol

BerryWS6 03-02-2010 11:08 PM

have you ditched the PVC system yet? blowing the dip stick tube out sounds like to much crank case pressure... I would just put filters on the vavle covers

1Bear 03-02-2010 11:09 PM

Charlie told me you were a little busy tonight!

1slow01Z71 03-02-2010 11:13 PM

Eh, electrodes are overrated :D

TXsilverado 03-02-2010 11:14 PM

i love this shit though. its funny, all of my neighbors think im some kind of professional drunk mechanic.

the look on their face when i tell them that i'm into government auditing and the corporate side of an auto manufacturer is hilarious. all they see is my greasy drunk ass messing with a loud ass truck

TXsilverado 03-02-2010 11:18 PM

oh, and that spark plug has been that way for atleas the last 1,000 miles lol. i figure since the first time i hit the nitrous with luke03's dad riding with me and the truck shit all over itself on the initial nitrous hit.

the plug was still firing somehow though because after about 3 or 4 backfires it came alive lol

TXsilverado 03-02-2010 11:23 PM

got an idle vid uploaded. sounds like a choo-choo train with the dual open pacesetter longtubes.

1slow01z71's ORY, cutout, bullet and corsa is laying to the side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ture001-11.jpg

Bigredmariner 03-02-2010 11:28 PM

Sounds good man, re-gap that plug it'll make it.:D

TXsilverado 03-02-2010 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by sixltrbtr (Post 4408346)
That motor is in great shape for so much nitrous. Is this on stock pistons and rings?

99 stock bottom end. 140,000 HARD miles. just goes to show what a good tune and proper maintenance will do.

i still think the motor is hurt even though the leakdown cam out so awesome. it's just consuming so much oil and blowing the tube. the oil is 100% not a leak. my only guess is its being pulled through the intake and burnt off but im going through a full quart every 1k miles.

1slow01Z71 03-02-2010 11:29 PM

All the beer cans in the bed of the truck is classic, I think I may have met someone who I can drink with :nod:

Atleast I wont start shit and run off and get you in the middle of an angry mob :jest:

TXsilverado 03-02-2010 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by BerryWS6 (Post 4408355)
have you ditched the PVC system yet? blowing the dip stick tube out sounds like to much crank case pressure... I would just put filters on the vavle covers

still running stock pcv system. at the same time, i have a buddy with a ls1 with a bigger cam, spinning more rpm on the same shot of nitrous and he has never pushed a dipstick out of place. but with my leak down results it makes me wander wth is going on. the motor passed with flying colors:ripped: i was honestly hoping for a reason to rebuild with forged pistons:angel: i've got a sickness

TXsilverado 03-02-2010 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by 1slow01Z71 (Post 4408378)
All the beer cans in the bed of the truck is classic, I think I may have met someone who I can drink with :nod:


Atleast I wont start shit and run off and get you in the middle of an angry mob :jest:


most of the cans blew out on my test drive without the exhaust hooked up:)

no shit:ripped: i was about 1 inch from getting my arse whipped bad lol. all over stupid shit too. went last weekend to get my concealed, but the class was too long for the party planned that night.

454navyss 03-03-2010 07:45 AM

have you checked your pcv valve? valve seals or guides?

1slow01Z71 03-03-2010 07:54 AM

I doubt its anything with the heads since they have very few miles on them.

Stewart put breathers on it and see what it does, if it stills burns oil without a PCV system then you know for sure its a problem with the shortblock.

TXsilverado 03-03-2010 08:53 AM

i spin alot of RPM. 7k most of the time. i figure most of my oil is being sucked into the intake. i really was surprised with the leak down results. i figured it had atleast 1 hurting cylinder. i think some new plugs and some breathers in the pcv and oil cap will get me on the road and running 100%. can't wait to get my new exhaust in. and the suspension done.

TXsilverado 03-03-2010 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by 454navyss (Post 4408457)
have you checked your pcv valve? valve seals or guides?

heads only have about 15k miles on them. the leakdown would have show if it had a bad valve seal/burnt valve. everything checked out 100%. these motors are incredible.

and for all of the royal purple haters:nunchuk1:

dlt76028 03-03-2010 11:07 AM

My old 6.0 was blowing the dipstick out and I did a compression test and they were 0-75. The engine was trash.

TXsilverado 03-03-2010 11:14 AM

zero is impossible...75% is horrible. are you sure that the valves were shut completely?

dlt76028 03-03-2010 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by TXsilverado (Post 4408577)
zero is impossible...75% is horrible. are you sure that the valves were shut completely?

When I did it, I was getting ~75, when a local performance shop did it, they were getting 0. Anyway you look at it, the engine was bad, it was blowing the dipstick out and had lots of blow by coming from the oil filler.

TIM Z 03-03-2010 11:51 AM

Good to hear another GEN III motor holding up to abuse. these things are awesome.

sixltrbtr 03-03-2010 11:59 AM

I'd redo the leakdown to be sure.

silver-mod-o 03-03-2010 12:10 PM

Bend those electrodes back down, slap em back in and give 'er hell!!!

BlackGMC 03-03-2010 12:29 PM

if you gonna run breathers, you might want to check with your tuner about how the tune is setup... If you still running a MAF and trims (closed loop), basically a stock step-up tune, those breathers will allow unmetered air to come threw the intake track and cause your trims to max out, basically you would be creating a vacuum leak...

but if you just run breathers and cap off all lines going to the TB, intake, etc. you will be fine...

charcold-bowtie 03-03-2010 12:32 PM

Leakdown or compression check? yall are talking two different things

budhayes3 03-03-2010 12:35 PM

I'm guessing that you don't have a catch can...are the hoses to the valve covers restriced in any way? (the one to the PCV and the fresh air hose on the passenger side). Have you gotten a look inside the intake, through the throttle blade maybe? Take a look and see how much oil is in there...

TXsilverado 03-03-2010 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by charcold-bowtie (Post 4408627)
Leakdown or compression check? yall are talking two different things

if you pass leak down, your compression will be ok. leak down checks for burnt valves, bad valve seals, cracked block and worn rings.

TXsilverado 03-03-2010 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by budhayes3 (Post 4408632)
I'm guessing that you don't have a catch can...are the hoses to the valve covers restriced in any way? (the one to the PCV and the fresh air hose on the passenger side). Have you gotten a look inside the intake, through the throttle blade maybe? Take a look and see how much oil is in there...

i had the fast intake apart about 2 weeks ago. it was SOAKED with oil. i cleaned it up, RTV'd the 2 halves together and tightened it all back up.

GMCtrk 03-03-2010 06:10 PM

yep, believe you on that. Emptied my catch can this past weekend, and an large amount of oil colored liquid with the consistency of milk came out.

montecarloss 03-03-2010 11:48 PM

just put new plugs and hit that thing with a 250 shot

Wheatley 03-03-2010 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by montecarloss (Post 4409135)
just put new plugs and hit that thing with a 250 shot

You need that shot to,or more:D

montecarloss 03-04-2010 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Wheatley (Post 4409138)
You need that shot to,or more:D

your right charlie lol

TXsilverado 03-04-2010 08:20 AM

the 250 is coming...if i can ever get everything done. one project keeps leading into new projects, and then the first one never gets finished lol.

charcold-bowtie 03-04-2010 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by dlt76028 (Post 4408572)
My old 6.0 was blowing the dipstick out and I did a compression test and they were 0-75. The engine was trash.


Originally Posted by TXsilverado (Post 4408577)
zero is impossible...75% is horrible. are you sure that the valves were shut completely?

compression test is in psi, not percent is what I was noting. right? or am I lost


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