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03sierraslt 09-24-2018 03:51 PM

Lighter Wheel and tire combo.
 
I’m trying to find a lighter wheel and tire combo than what I have, I want either an 18 or 20 inch rim with a tire that’s in the 29 inch range. Ideally I just want for drag radials, and good looking rims to run all the time.


Anyone have any suggestions?

BigKID 09-24-2018 04:49 PM

Good luck with the wheel choice if you are looking to keep it economical. I have been researching ways to get wider rubber(295+, 28-29" height) all the way around on my truck which is going to require new wheels. Currently Forgestar, BC Forged and Brixton are at the top of my list for a 20x10/11 combo. I have found other custom forged 6lug options but they are $1000+ per wheel which is more than I can justify.

Being you want a drag radial, that really narrows your options to:
305/45/18 - wheel range = 9.5-(10.0)-11.5 Tire options: Nitto Nt05R, Nitto 555R, MT ET Street-R

305/35/20 - wheel range = 10-(11)-12 Tire options: Nitto 555R; MT ET Street SS

315/35/20 - wheel range = 10.5-(11)-12.5 Tire options: Nitto NT05R

With the width of the above options, it may be difficult to get the fronts to tuck without rubbing which leaves...

275/40/20 - wheel range = 9.0-(9.5)-11 Tire: MT ET Street SS

A 20x9.0 or 20x9.5 may be more easily found off the shelf with a tuck-able offset. (possible choices: Method, Black Rhino, Dub, Factory
Reproductions, etc)

wretched73 09-25-2018 07:06 AM

I'm partial to the NNBS de-cladded 20" rims. I have a set, I can weigh one of them tonight if you want.

03sierraslt 09-25-2018 07:29 AM

Are they somewhat light? Sure if you can please do. I am curious.

skolman91 09-25-2018 10:24 AM

I was just about to mention them, they are pretty light for 20” wheels and thats just by feel from taking them on and off alot. tire selection adds majority of the weight and i only have 275/55s on them tho

Atomic 09-25-2018 12:56 PM

Good luck finding something sticky taller than 28"

someotherguy 09-25-2018 05:41 PM

If you can score a set of 18" or 20" old school Centerlines off craigslist or whatever, those are pretty damn light. I have a set of 20" Centerline Stingrays on my wife's SS and they are stupid light, especially compared to the 22" of the same wheel on my SS. Usually see prices of $600-$1000 a set, without tires, depending on size, style, and condition. (some of those designs were just butt ugly and aged poorly, but others are nice.) Watch out for repaired wheels. Any signs of aftermarket welding would be a dealbreaker for me; I've had wheels repaired and they just keep cracking later.

Richard

wretched73 09-25-2018 06:13 PM

Declad 20", no tire or plastic cover or adhesive, weighs 40 pounds

03sierraslt 09-25-2018 08:03 PM

Hmm. Ok thanks for the info.

06 4.8 09-25-2018 08:17 PM

305/45/18 should be around 29” tall and they make the 555R and pretty sure 05R. Also pretty sure they make those raceline renegades in 18x10. Also check out a company called vrock. Possibly the vr8 if I remember correctly

06 4.8 09-25-2018 08:19 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.per...397677722.jpeg
My old truck with 295/45/18 front and 305/45/18 rear

03sierraslt 09-25-2018 08:50 PM

That looks good, I think I am gonna need something closer to 30” so I don’t run out of gear in 3rd.

someotherguy 09-26-2018 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by wretched73 (Post 5448451)
Declad 20", no tire or plastic cover or adhesive, weighs 40 pounds

Wow.. pretty heavy for a 20" wheel. A forged Centerline is closer to 25-30

Richard

MrHorsepowerLSx 09-26-2018 08:12 AM

You could always put some Welds on the truck and empty your bank account doing it for 20” sizes ;)

03sierraslt 09-26-2018 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by MrHorsepowerLSx (Post 5448496)
You could always put some Welds on the truck and empty your bank account doing it for 20” sizes :)

$$$$$$$

i may just find a lighter rim and do a 295/40/20 Nitto. Then use my 17’s for track use.

skolman91 09-26-2018 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by someotherguy (Post 5448487)
Wow.. pretty heavy for a 20" wheel. A forged Centerline is closer to 25-30

Richard

cast vs forged alum, im sure he knew forged wheels would be lighter than cast, but you pay for it..$$$$$$

Vortec350ss 09-26-2018 10:33 AM

The raceline renegade would be a great track only wheel for the simple reason that its too far offset to look the way you would want on a street vehicle. They are VERY light for an 18x10 though.

SilverSquared 09-26-2018 10:34 PM

What about Bogart?

someotherguy 09-27-2018 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by skolman91 (Post 5448503)

cast vs forged alum, im sure he knew forged wheels would be lighter than cast, but you pay for it..$$$$$$

Sure, just saying, 40 lbs isn't light for a 20" wheel. As I mentioned you can score a decent set of Centerlines used for pretty cheap, especially for a forged wheel. Since they went out of business last year after all those decades and now have "come back" as just another crappy cast wheel company, all you're left with for the old forged designs are used ones.

Richard

03sierraslt 09-27-2018 08:27 AM

Keep in mind I am AWD so the plan is to run all the same size.

wretched73 09-27-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Vortec350ss (Post 5448510)
The raceline renegade would be a great track only wheel for the simple reason that its too far offset to look the way you would want on a street vehicle. They are VERY light for an 18x10 though.

Based on the website below they weigh 39# each. I have no idea if that is heavy or light for that size, just putting that info out there. It is not always easy to find weights since the mfg website rarely lists it

https://www.performanceplustire.com/...-discontinued/

Vortec350ss 09-27-2018 10:16 AM

They aren't that heavy. I am looking for the stats my buddy got while running them.

Pat check out Graeme's build thread. Post 124 shows you the offset

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...-536662/page7/

Vortec350ss 09-27-2018 10:19 AM

Found it.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...egades-538992/

25lbs a pop for the 18x10's. LIGHT!! They so have a lot of offset though.

BudRacing 09-27-2018 01:23 PM

Cosmis Racing Xt-005r 20x9.5 - a set is ~$1500

adriver 09-27-2018 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Vortec350ss (Post 5448617)
Found it.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...egades-538992/

25lbs a pop for the 18x10's. LIGHT!! They so have a lot of offset though.

That sounds really light to me. How did you get 25 lbs, did you weigh them yourself, or go off the website?




Originally Posted by wretched73 (Post 5448606)
Based on the website below they weigh 39# each. I have no idea if that is heavy or light for that size, just putting that info out there. It is not always easy to find weights since the mfg website rarely lists it

https://www.performanceplustire.com/...-discontinued/

17 x 9 = "31 lbs"
18 x 10 = "39 lbs"


https://www.racelinewheels.com/p-748...e-6-black.aspx
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.per...90568699e7.png

I don't believe that going from 17 x 9 to a 18 x 10, is only .6 lbs heavier.


wretched73 09-28-2018 06:54 AM

If you follow his link to Graeme's build, Graeme weighs them and they come out to 25# each. Probably more accurate than that website i found the info on

Chevyss909 09-28-2018 07:04 AM


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.per...a986e0978.jpeg

Originally Posted by Vortec350ss (Post 5448510)
The raceline renegade would be a great track only wheel for the simple reason that its too far offset to look the way you would want on a street vehicle. They are VERY light for an 18x10 though.

yes that is what I run at the track

adriver 09-28-2018 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by wretched73 (Post 5448703)
If you follow his link to Graeme's build, Graeme weighs them and they come out to 25# each. Probably more accurate than that website i found the info on

Of course I read that, but this is what it says:

Originally Posted by GM1697 (Post 5304611)
Posting up some pics of my new wheels.

Raceline Renegades
These puppies weigh in at only 25 lbs a piece, and they are dirt cheap!


Originally Posted by GM1697 (Post 5313230)
Honestly I have no idea, I shoulda weighed the tire too...

Neither quote specifically says that he personally weighed them. He could have even got that number off the shipping label. Its lighter than what both websites say it is.


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