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Front diff whine under cruise and decel, not on accel

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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dave
Check you're tires diameter. A slight difference between the front and rear tires will load the front diff and make it wine. If the tires arn't identical as far as brand,wear, or size the front diff will make noise. Gm has a procedure to check this you mark all four tires then drive forward 6 or more rotations. If the marks don't line up it can cause you're problem.
brand new tires rotated every 2000 miles and only about 4000 miles old
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevada79
Sorry to hear your problem but it's very common. I just had my front end rebuilt for $1100. I had the same symptoms as your describing and it just got louder and louder. The carrier bearing adjustment nut lock broke and the nut backed off and took everything out. The case was salvageable, barely. Mine isn't the first one this has happened to, mostly on the drivers side bearing. I don't think this is your problem but you will most likely need a rebuild and your gears are almost definitely toast. I suggest changing your fluid. That will tell you quickly the condition your front end is in. Good luck.
crazy, i dont feel like pullint it apart, im just going to try to find another unit before it gernades
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lafnlt1
damn, cant use it, need a AWD unit
If you obtain a front diff. with the same gear ratio, you could use one from a 4x4 by simply pulling off and swaping the passenger side axle tube and one piece axle from your existing unit. Remove the clutch fork assembly from the new 4x4 diff. Once you have them laid out in front of you, you will realize they are really the same except for a few parts. The center housing in our diff's even have the spot for the 4WD actuator. Selectable 4WD (S4WD) have the actuator, while non-selectable 4WD/AWD (F4WD) units do not have the actuator. Also the passenger side axle tube on S4WD units are steel, while the S4WD passenger side tube is magnesium.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Bear
If you obtain a front diff. with the same gear ratio, you could use one from a 4x4 by simply pulling off and swaping the passenger side axle tube and one piece axle from your existing unit. Remove the clutch fork assembly from the new 4x4 diff. Once you have them laid out in front of you, you will realize they are really the same except for a few parts. The center housing in our diff's even have the spot for the 4WD actuator. Selectable 4WD (S4WD) have the actuator, while non-selectable 4WD/AWD (F4WD) units do not have the actuator. Also the passenger side axle tube on S4WD units are steel, while the S4WD passenger side tube is magnesium.
I was going to say this but didn't want to come across as trying to sell my unit.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by KySilverado
I was going to say this but didn't want to come across as trying to sell my unit.
thats an idea. as long as it will work, how much for the front diff your selling??
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevada79
Sorry to hear your problem but it's very common. I just had my front end rebuilt for $1100. I had the same symptoms as your describing and it just got louder and louder. The carrier bearing adjustment nut lock broke and the nut backed off and took everything out. The case was salvageable, barely. Mine isn't the first one this has happened to, mostly on the drivers side bearing. I don't think this is your problem but you will most likely need a rebuild and your gears are almost definitely toast. I suggest changing your fluid. That will tell you quickly the condition your front end is in. Good luck.
I'll bet that this is my issue for sure...hopefully I can get away with replacing bearings and gears (just bearings would be nice, but with the amount of metal that came out last time I changed the fluid, I'm sure that my gears are wiped). Wish I had the cash for KY's front diff Looks like my truck's going to be sitting for a long time

Hope you get yours fixed quickly and easily lafnlt1, If you just swap the whole unit, you should tear the old one apart and take some pics...I'm curious to see what't torn up in there.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lafnlt1
thats an idea. as long as it will work, how much for the front diff your selling??
Beings your SD is an '05, don't you have 4.10's?
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Bear
Beings your SD is an '05, don't you have 4.10's?
dont know, never checked, i thought the window sticker said 3:73, its stuck in my head for some reason
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lafnlt1
dont know, never checked, i thought the window sticker said 3:73, its stuck in my head for some reason
You can check the RPO codes in your glove box, I believe they are as follows:

GU4=3.08
GU5=3.23
GU6=3.42
GT4=3.73
GT5=4.10
HC4=4.56
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