4L80E infos needed
#1
I am putting an '04 LQ9 in my '70 Impala, and I will use a 4L80E from an '05 Savanna full size van which had a 4.8 engine. I need some directions about this tranny:
Are all 4L80Es the same inside? If not, what are the specifics of mine, how strong is it?
Apparently, not all 4L80Es have the same converters/stall speeds; what do I have?
For a stock LQ9 with an LS6 intake and a cam, should I change the converter? How good/useful/fun is a shift kit? Can I change the shift firmness through the computer, or is this only a mechanical mod?
The car is about 4000lbs, will be a nearly daily-driver in the summer and see some bracket racing; I want the car to be fun in traffic (no high stall).
Thanks for any comment, input...
Are all 4L80Es the same inside? If not, what are the specifics of mine, how strong is it?
Apparently, not all 4L80Es have the same converters/stall speeds; what do I have?
For a stock LQ9 with an LS6 intake and a cam, should I change the converter? How good/useful/fun is a shift kit? Can I change the shift firmness through the computer, or is this only a mechanical mod?
The car is about 4000lbs, will be a nearly daily-driver in the summer and see some bracket racing; I want the car to be fun in traffic (no high stall).
Thanks for any comment, input...
#2
You can change the line pressure in the computer which will increase shift firmness. I think GM rates the 4L80E at 480ftlbs....that's what a guy at Hughes' told me yesterday anyway. I'm not sure if thats motor or at the wheels, but most say a stock 4L80E will hold 500+rwhp without a problem. I'm a shift kit, and deep pan will be the only mods mine gets.
Last edited by BADMOFO; Nov 22, 2006 at 04:37 AM.
#5
I would think a Savana with a 4.8 would have a 4L60-E. The bolt pattern of the pan on a 4L60-E is a square. The pattern on a 4L80-E looks like a tombstone - curved at the back.
There have been changes made to the internals of the 4L80-E over the years, but the last significant ones were in 1999 where the width of the gears changed, and in 2001 when the roller clutch changed to a better design. In general, all 4L80-E transmissions since then are interchangable.
The 4L80-E has two "servos" for two bands, but these bands are only used for engine-braking overrun and for reverse. The best way to improve shift firmness is through the use of a shift kit that increases the volume of the supply fluid rather than increasing line pressure through programming.
If the Savana trans turns out to be a 4L60-E, I would seek a different solution.
There have been changes made to the internals of the 4L80-E over the years, but the last significant ones were in 1999 where the width of the gears changed, and in 2001 when the roller clutch changed to a better design. In general, all 4L80-E transmissions since then are interchangable.
The 4L80-E has two "servos" for two bands, but these bands are only used for engine-braking overrun and for reverse. The best way to improve shift firmness is through the use of a shift kit that increases the volume of the supply fluid rather than increasing line pressure through programming.
If the Savana trans turns out to be a 4L60-E, I would seek a different solution.
#6
James,
I have seen a 4.3 van with a 4l80e in it.... so it wouldnt surprise me if it is actually a 80E.... I dont understand it, gues they are scared the awsome torque of the 4.3 will be too much for a 60?????
I have seen a 4.3 van with a 4l80e in it.... so it wouldnt surprise me if it is actually a 80E.... I dont understand it, gues they are scared the awsome torque of the 4.3 will be too much for a 60?????
#7
Originally Posted by Grumpy4.8
I have seen a 4.3 van with a 4l80e in it.... so it wouldnt surprise me if it is actually a 80E.... I dont understand it, gues they are scared the awsome torque of the 4.3 will be too much for a 60?????
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