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Old 02-19-2012, 11:47 PM
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So I swapped a 4L80e into my 03 sierra denali awd quadrasteer the other day. Using a nelson conversion harness, pinned the ecm for the additional speed sensor. Had a segment swap done and sent to me from Bill. Mechanically, everything seems fine. It is a triple disk 2600 stall from circle D, jake's performance level 3 4L80e. Now here are the issues:

-No lockup. Even when I try to manually command lockup it will not lock up. If I change pulse width modulation to 100% it will lock up and stay locked. Not throwing any codes so I doubt it is related to a misfire?
-The 1-2 shift is very hard. I upped the torque management to pull half the torque on the shift in my last change and it does not seem to pull the timing like it should. Sometimes it will do nothing, sometimes it will pull the torque after the shift occurs for a second or two.

Just trying to figure out where to start since this isnt making very much sense to me. Thanks
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Originally Posted by 99bluefirebird
So I swapped a 4L80e into my 03 sierra denali awd quadrasteer the other day. Using a nelson conversion harness, pinned the ecm for the additional speed sensor. Had a segment swap done and sent to me from Bill. Mechanically, everything seems fine. It is a triple disk 2600 stall from circle D, jake's performance level 3 4L80e. Now here are the issues:

-No lockup. Even when I try to manually command lockup it will not lock up. If I change pulse width modulation to 100% it will lock up and stay locked. Not throwing any codes so I doubt it is related to a misfire?
-The 1-2 shift is very hard. I upped the torque management to pull half the torque on the shift in my last change and it does not seem to pull the timing like it should. Sometimes it will do nothing, sometimes it will pull the torque after the shift occurs for a second or two.

Just trying to figure out where to start since this isnt making very much sense to me. Thanks
Because the lockup works at 100%, it tells me it's likely an issue with the pinout of the wiring going to the trans. It could be a segment issue as well.

The tight converter is going to make it feel harder than usual, we can detune the shifts a bit.

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Thanks Jake. I was wondering about the wiring or segment as a possible cause, especially since I cant command lockup and I cant seem to command torque management during the shifts. Is there any reason I could not swap harnesses to a full harness from a 2500 truck that had the 4L80e stock? Seems a bit excessive but if this conversion harness wont work right it may be my only option.
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I agree with Jake, sounds like an electrical issue. What are you using to command lock up?

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Using hptuners, just trying to toggle it "on" doesnt work, but setting pwm to 100% does work. But normal driving it never seems to lock up like it should. All the tables are still set to stock.
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