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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoichiometric
Will the hot spots cause failure of the log manifold or un-even cylinder temperatures? Also, how would the cam choice be affected by using a log manifold vs. a tubular header?
cam choice is very well affected because a log cant respond as fast as a header can. MY 226 cam cleaned up night and day from the manifold to the header style.

Yes, hot spots can cause cracking. Using a certain material is only going to prolong how long it takes to crack.

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickPerformanceProducts
Not if they are welded properly, we give a warranty with our kits against cracking and workmanship and so far in 2 years I have only seen 1 return. Cylinder temperatures are all different anyway, the log or header will not effect cylinder temps. But tune up, injectors flow, and timing sure will. The header(s) is after the cylinder.
WE have on order several data logging products to help our research into where is it hotter etc, how fast is the turbo turning, pressure points within an intake system. And for the just to know reason.
Thats why high HP race and drag cars run headers?
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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what hp do you count as high HP?
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Rick I donot want this to be thread about one it better then the other. They both have a place in the turbo truck world. My twin kits use headers, and my single does not. Your old twin used those stockers, and your new one used headers.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickPerformanceProducts
Rick I donot want this to be thread about one it better then the other. They both have a place in the turbo truck world. My twin kits use headers, and my single does not. Your old twin used those stockers, and your new one used headers.
Thats the point I am making. Not trying to prove one setup over the other, but I was under the impression from others that not much would change from a manifold to the header. But low and behold, the same setup on my truck and the same boost pressure bought me another 130hp. So go figure. The truck responds so much better and the power is nuts. There is something to be said for it.

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
Thats the point I am making. Not trying to prove one setup over the other, but I was under the impression from others that not much would change from a manifold to the header. But low and behold, the same setup on my truck and the same boost pressure bought me another 130hp. So go figure. The truck responds so much better and the power is nuts. There is something to be said for it.

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Same cam, turbos, boost and everything? Only change was the manifolds to headers??? Are you driving this truck at these boost levels, and are the dyno numbers repeatable?
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
Same cam, turbos, boost and everything? Only change was the manifolds to headers??? Are you driving this truck at these boost levels, and are the dyno numbers repeatable?
Even the same timing table and fuel levels.

I drive the truck everyday and lets just say I dont even want to use my second bost level like I used too because my low boost blows that away now. And yes, I ran the numbers on the dyno for all boost levels all day long. I thought it was odd, but it kept doing it.

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Well damn, I'd better start building headers then,
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
Well damn, I'd better start building headers then,

Lets just say you better have your pocket book open.

I put an easy 2K more just doing the headers.

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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my $.02 on single vs twins... twins look bad but cost more. in medium hp set ups a single is easier to package. in very high hp set ups i think twins are easier to package due to the very large down pipe you would need for 1000+hp.

i did some presure ratio tests with my truck. we also did some on the fairmont. no great answers but a few numbers you can look at.

here is a ar swap on the fairmont that has a little exhaust presure data https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...ighlight=.68ar

here is a cam swap thread on the fairmont that has a little exhaust presure data https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...xhaust+presure

here is a thread with some info from my truck https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264718

got company, will add more later.
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