Its 3rd down and 1......time to move the chains?
Nov 22, 2008 | 10:53 PM
#11
I have been a RAT motor guy since my 68 SS396 Camaro. I just like'em...not sure what else to say about that.
...but since i dont plan on tearing apart the bottom end just yet (maybe later) I probably wont......probably
. Compression goes up from 9.1:1 to 10:1....so that is another reason not to boost without a forged bottom end i guess. Another reason is i wont be able to get the boost i want without going turbo as all the S/C 8.1L company have went the way of the Dodo.
...but since i dont plan on tearing apart the bottom end just yet (maybe later) I probably wont......probably
. Compression goes up from 9.1:1 to 10:1....so that is another reason not to boost without a forged bottom end i guess. Another reason is i wont be able to get the boost i want without going turbo as all the S/C 8.1L company have went the way of the Dodo.I forgot but is this your work truck? Your DD? or only vehicle?
Reliability vs goals.
I'm always a fan of building for overkill. I know what I like/ want. I research. Save up. Buy the good stuff. I like to do things once. I'm blown away that some will not use a credit card. Good for you.
Oh yeah. Are heads in the deals. Do any co.'s make a 4v head for your appl.? I know @ 1 time there was, but that may've been only for older BB's. Wasn't cheap either. Good luck Jimmie.
Nov 22, 2008 | 10:58 PM
#12
Please understand I'm not bashing Big Blocks bro. Enough on that, let's get down to your build. If u needed forged goodies, wouldn't pistons & rods/ ARP rod bolts be enuff? Isn't a BB crank like a 4L80E? bulletproof?
I forgot but is this your work truck? Your DD? or only vehicle?
Reliability vs goals.
I'm always a fan of building for overkill. I know what I like/ want. I research. Save up. Buy the good stuff. I like to do things once. I'm blown away that some will not use a credit card. Good for you.
Oh yeah. Are heads in the deals. Do any co.'s make a 4v head for your appl.? I know @ 1 time there was, but that may've been only for older BB's. Wasn't cheap either. Good luck Jimmie.
I forgot but is this your work truck? Your DD? or only vehicle?
Reliability vs goals.
I'm always a fan of building for overkill. I know what I like/ want. I research. Save up. Buy the good stuff. I like to do things once. I'm blown away that some will not use a credit card. Good for you.
Oh yeah. Are heads in the deals. Do any co.'s make a 4v head for your appl.? I know @ 1 time there was, but that may've been only for older BB's. Wasn't cheap either. Good luck Jimmie.
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Nov 22, 2008 | 11:12 PM
#13
My bad. I just checked them out. Saw the heads are incl. That Cool Gap manifold is S-W-E-E-T. I read they're the only maker of modded 8.1 head.
Not LPE?
I know you've put some time & $ makin that Whipple work. It sucks when parts are hard to come by. I remember tryin to find some, IIRC, aftermarket stuff for a 91 S10. Parts bumped up to 1990 & started again in 1992. Huh? It frustrated me. Oh, you've got the econo version not the higher trim S10? sorry. Still wish I had kept that truck. By now, the Iron Duke would be out. In w/ a SB & a 6spd.
Oh well.
Do u have an ET goal or power level in mind on yours?
Not LPE?
I know you've put some time & $ makin that Whipple work. It sucks when parts are hard to come by. I remember tryin to find some, IIRC, aftermarket stuff for a 91 S10. Parts bumped up to 1990 & started again in 1992. Huh? It frustrated me. Oh, you've got the econo version not the higher trim S10? sorry. Still wish I had kept that truck. By now, the Iron Duke would be out. In w/ a SB & a 6spd.
Oh well. Do u have an ET goal or power level in mind on yours?
Nov 22, 2008 | 11:14 PM
#14
TURBO, TURBO 
j/k 
Actually, I was just talking to Stock48 this morning about building a turbo for a 8.1. He's looking to buy a new truck (he sold his Dmax), and was thinking of buying an 8.1 if he could find a good deal on one...
j/k Actually, I was just talking to Stock48 this morning about building a turbo for a 8.1. He's looking to buy a new truck (he sold his Dmax), and was thinking of buying an 8.1 if he could find a good deal on one...
Nov 22, 2008 | 11:49 PM
#16
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I hear ya Tim...LOL. Look what happened to TieRod and N2O on his 8.1L . I think I am just wanting to do something different at this point. I know the numbers are not any better than where I am now, but it will be a much safer ride as far as motor preservation...and at the end of the day I dont really want a race truck, i just want a reliable truck to to take to the track, the grocery store, and the mountains. The stainless Works long tubes are $729 so yes, they are a little pricey on top of the Raylar kit. I dont know...I keep going backk and forth, and back and forth. Maybe i will want to add a power adder on top of the kit down the road...then I would be in the 12's for sure.............i hate decisions. I am selling everything!
. I think I am just wanting to do something different at this point. I know the numbers are not any better than where I am now, but it will be a much safer ride as far as motor preservation...and at the end of the day I dont really want a race truck, i just want a reliable truck to to take to the track, the grocery store, and the mountains. The stainless Works long tubes are $729 so yes, they are a little pricey on top of the Raylar kit. I dont know...I keep going backk and forth, and back and forth. Maybe i will want to add a power adder on top of the kit down the road...then I would be in the 12's for sure.............i hate decisions. I am selling everything!
I'm comin' to get some, so get your **** right!
Nov 23, 2008 | 12:15 AM
#17
I just think if you went thru all of that effort and expense and then ran in the 14's you would be pissed. You already know I'm gettin' a set of tires and your gonna have your hands full with my stock n/a 6.0 as it is. No S/C, no cam, no headers, no laptop on the center console, no worries. I'm comin' to get some, so get your **** right!
I'm comin' to get some, so get your **** right! You know if i even "think" your gettin close to me I am swerving over into your lane and running you into the wall.....I dont care!!
Your probably right about being pissed though...I guess I am just thinking about the, "Damn thats a cool looking setup" factor. Plus a nice set of Aluminum heads on the 496 would be bad ***!!! Then who knows......New heads, new cam, new intake, headers, new TB,....i might still break 13's with no F/I. I could still always throw a turbo on there later. Damn, i need to go to bed......all my opinions will change again tomorrow.
Nov 23, 2008 | 06:04 AM
#19
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good luck with 13's NA. my tahoe does 14.0 at 95 with the 502 ramjet. 510/580 crank. You're gonna be in the same ballpark and probably heavier than the 5600 I had that thing up to.
I'd pick up the heads and intake from them and go with a milder boost cam....
I'd pick up the heads and intake from them and go with a milder boost cam....
