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Old May 13, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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There's no replacement for displacement...I kno this lol, but from a budget point of view, what would be ideal? It seems to me a 408 would need a bigger turbo and better flowing heads. So far the details are lq4 block, compstar rods, 317 heads, proflo intake and a 76 mm turbo. I'm about to order the callis crankshaft. Honest goals here is a 11 second truck(97 z71, 4l80, 3.42s, 4600 pounds) 15 psi through a 370 should have no problem right? Or do I need to go for the 408?Max HP I'm guessing 800 to 900? If the 408 is worth it, it will just take me longer to build it, what do you guys think?
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Old May 13, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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if you are getting a crank anyway, do the 408 IMO. If you decide on a 370, run the stock crank. I run worked 317s to this day.

You are dead on with the hp for a 408.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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you will have no problems with a 4600lb truck going 11's i go 11's with a 4.8 at 13# and truck weighs 5050. check out the aes 390 before you buy a crank. they run a 3.8 stroke so somewhat middle of the road from stock and the 4.0 stroker. it gives you the displacement but not some of the "problems" that the 4.0 stroke has
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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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im in the same boat...
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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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like berserker said if your gonna buy a crank might as well go 408
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What problems does a 4 inch stroke have?
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Old May 13, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by james8997
What problems does a 4 inch stroke have?
I have had 0 problems with multiple 4" stroked engines.

4.1", yes, some have issues because of the geometry.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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straight from frasier at AES


Originally Posted by AES Racing
Overlap is considered an important factor of crankshaft strength, hence why GM made "400 main" vs. "350 main" when they increased the crankshaft stroke for 400 SBC. This picture should better explain.




No,

Compression height dictates the real estate available for the ring lands. As you shorten compression height rings are supported by less material, top ring land generally is compensated to be thinner. Thinner top land any extra heat applied to the piston (detonation) will cause the aluminum to contract.

Thicker top ring land is able to absorb the heat, less chances of cracking or affecting the structure of the piston.

This cylinder had 44% leak down


Heres a picture of our Cp Piston next to a "408" piston
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Old May 13, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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so you know i dont have any of these combinations but i do know if i ever go built motor it will be that 390. ive seen enough proof that its one hell of a motor. just want you to be aware of your options incase you hadnt known about it thats all
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Is that a gen1 sbc? Seems like comparing apples to oranges to me lol. My main concern was strength and if 317 heads can flow enough to feed a 408. The rods are 6.125
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