post up your boosted 4.8, 5.3, 6.0 number s
Post up your numbers rwtq and rwhp
Tell us engine size Engine mods Turbo, supercharged etc Pounds of boost Meth or not nos or not Trans, stall Tire size Pry the best question how long did it last |
99 rcsb. 5.3 4l80e, circle d 3000 stall. Z06 cam, master power 70 mm turbo front mount. 420 rwhp on 7 pounds of boost. This is a friends truck I Helped build, my ss is still pretty stock.
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Originally Posted by 02chevyls1
(Post 4929729)
Post up your numbers rwtq and rwhp
Tell us engine size Engine mods Turbo, supercharged etc Pounds of boost Meth or not nos or not Trans, stall Tire size Pry the best question how long did it last SLP 234/228 113, patriot duals, delbrock Pro-Flo KBRacing pt88 kit Snow stage 1 smallest Meth nozzle, Bosch80's and A1000 on BP92 No nitrous Circle d 2c, 4l80e with hd2, 14 bolt with 3.42s 235/60/16 (roller tires) Going on 4k miles, working on 2nd trans and 3rd stall change. New cam is on the way looking for more low end torque and going to up the boost from 15.5lbs to 18 with a 50hp shot if needed. This dyno was with 13 degrees, Meth on at 10lbs, 15.5lbs of boost in 3rd Attachment 136223 |
Originally Posted by 02chevyls1
(Post 4929729)
Post up your numbers rwtq and rwhp
Tell us engine size Engine mods Turbo, supercharged etc Pounds of boost Meth or not nos or not Trans, stall Tire size Pry the best question how long did it last L76 6.0 EPS 218/230 TVS 2300 +/- 8 lbs No Meth or NOS 6L80 stock Factory 20s About 8,000 miles - lost oil control ringland on #1 piston |
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Post up your numbers rwtq and rwhp --576--562
Tell us engine size ---- Junkyard stock LQ4 6.0 364ci !!! Engine mods ----- Stock Long Block,317 heads, 219 -231 cam/PAC 1518 springs, LS2 chain/ LS7 Lifters /LS6 oil pump/90mm Throttle body Turbo, supercharged etc---Supercharged/ TVS 1900 roush Pounds of boost---12#'s steady / peak 14/ 2.6 pulley/ IW OD Balancer. Meth or not---- No drugs nos or not ---Ditto Trans, stall --- Built 4L80E/Transfer Case/ Steel shaft/ 2600 PI triple disc. Tire size---275-55-20 Pry the best question how long did it last -- Been lasting a good while now, bout close to 2 years with boost, just Dyno tuned it last July, so a year roughly with current setup. Attachment 136217 ***- Dyno was with Low timing, Crappy 3'' summit muffler that blew the back out on the dyno, and 3.5'' intake in 91* heat. 6rib belt slip. ( enough whining and excuses haha!) Going to retune for Larger 340 lph fuel pump/hotwire kit as my AFR is 10-10.4 now , and do a 4.5'' intake, i have added a single 3.5'' exhaust. Should be 600+ at the wheels im hoping:devil: We are so lucky to have these awesome LSx powerplants. |
Joeygc5 why so may stall changes
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Originally Posted by 02chevyls1
(Post 4931015)
Joeygc5 why so may stall changes
You supercharged guys have some killer torque curves |
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Originally Posted by 02chevyls1
(Post 4929729)
Post up your numbers rwtq and rwhp
Tell us engine size Engine mods Turbo, supercharged etc Pounds of boost Meth or not nos or not Trans, stall Tire size Pry the best question how long did it last ARP studs/ls9 gaskets/PAC 1518 springs/02 ls6 cam Magnum dbb 76mm/Q/.96 First pull 16psi, second was 18psi E85 50 dry shot on second pull/ on at 3800rpms 4l80, circle D 2b 275/40/20 Had 70k n/a, now 35k boosted and still getting it done. Only thing worth noting, found a cracked header after dyno. Attachment 136188 |
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418ci:L92 vic jr intake,L92 Heads 9:0:1 Comp,Bullet cam 237/244 114lsa, 80e,... 10psi pull 15psi pull Still need to tightened the converter verry loose, those where with the converter unlocked... |
Wheres everybody else with boost?? C'mon guys lets see what you got. I'm curious to see which comes out on top # for #.
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I did 545/565 on my LQ4 with a Maggie 112 on 8#
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stock 4L80E stock TC STS 60mm 93oct 275/60/16 Toyo Proxes S/T TC locked up in 2nd gear on all the pulls on a stingy Dyno Dynamics 6psi ~16* timing tune i towed with ran a 13.2@104 on that setup Attachment 135029 9psi ~14* timing Attachment 135030 6psi ~16* 47 shot nitrous pushed it to about 7psi 12.5@111 on this Attachment 135031 hopefully have some mo better numbers with the front mount and S475 :D |
Id bet you hit 500 pretty easily with that S475. What turbine/housing is on that?
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Mine is 6.0L w/ 9.2:1 cr (I wish I would have went higher now)
WCCH stage II heads 212/218-.59/.60@115 cam Trick kit with 3" dp t76 76mm w/ .96 ar. FLT 80e w/ Circle-D 258mm tripple disc 3.73 gears @ 12psi 502hp/522tq @ 16psi 627hp/653tq These are with low timing, and 11 afr |
Originally Posted by black00chev
(Post 4941154)
Id bet you hit 500 pretty easily with that S475. What turbine/housing is on that?
Its a 83mm 1.0 AR. |
Mods in my sig, and my times too.
My truck's been on the dyno one time, the numbers were 425/428. They seemed low to me, and the next week I remembered that my fuel filter hadn't been replaced since I originally installed the blower. I took it off & it was plugged, couldn't blow through it. Went back the the track and times dropped from 12.4's to 11.8's. Hasn't been back to the dyno though. :) |
I gotta admit I'm a little underwhelmed by the power numbers the turbo's are putting out at moderate boost levels. They clearly have more potential when you crank it up and go for the gold... but at about 10# where I would most likely be living they dont seem all that impressive compared to their counterparts. I wonder if thats a function of having such an inefficient exhaust system compared to what the belt driven guys can run...:shrug:
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you gotta take dyno numbers with a grain of salt.. Trap speed is where your power really shows up.
Different dynos will throw the numbers compared to another. and turbos are load bearing, so some dynos wont let the turbo get to full boost. Dyno dynamics to say a dyno jet is a 15% difference. so my 440hp would be roughly 505hp on a dynojet. |
Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71
(Post 4941399)
Mods in my sig, and my times too.
My truck's been on the dyno one time, the numbers were 425/428. They seemed low to me, and the next week I remembered that my fuel filter hadn't been replaced since I originally installed the blower. I took it off & it was plugged, couldn't blow through it. Went back the the track and times dropped from 12.4's to 11.8's. Hasn't been back to the dyno though. :) We should schedule another dyno day and both head into town once my truck is all set back up :devil: |
Originally Posted by nonnieselman
(Post 4943053)
you gotta take dyno numbers with a grain of salt.. Trap speed is where your power really shows up.
Different dynos will throw the numbers compared to another. and turbos are load bearing, so some dynos wont let the turbo get to full boost. Dyno dynamics to say a dyno jet is a 15% difference. so my 440hp would be roughly 505hp on a dynojet. |
Originally Posted by Vortec350ss
(Post 4943072)
Yea I understand that, but its definitely something worth noting. The turbo's are much more efficient at making boost... theres no question there, but without spending an arm and a leg on a turbo kit they still use the stock manifold on one side... kinda whacky if you ask me. Just by looking at most of the kits I think there is a ton of power potential left in them... look at how much boost supercharged guys lose when they go to a great exhaust system... yet they are stil pushing as much if not MORE air through the engine.
The one plus side to the turbo is if they upgrade the exhaust to make the motor breath easier and loose boost in the process it's much easier to turn the boost back up to where it was at versus the supercharger guys like me who would have to re-pulley to gain that boost back. Either way I would think 8lbs with a free flowing exhaust would be more beneficial than 10lbs through stock manifolds. I am kinda bummed cause I am doing all this work to the truck over the next month after my mishap and I don't think I will be able to convince the wife to let me spend another 1k for the exhaust I want to go to. My stock manifolds with the the after market muffler I have now will get the job done but would really like to get some 1 7/8 headers. Dunno something about spending over 10k on a truck in a 6 month time frame seems to get to her when I ask to spend more :challenge: |
Originally Posted by ak2007r6
(Post 4943082)
:D the motor is a big air pump and you want it to be as efficient as you can make it. I could slap a 2" exhaust on my setup and see boost through the roof but I would never see any worthy gains from it.
The one plus side to the turbo is if they upgrade the exhaust to make the motor breath easier and loose boost in the process it's much easier to turn the boost back up to where it was at versus the supercharger guys like me who would have to re-pulley to gain that boost back. Either way I would think 8lbs with a free flowing exhaust would be more beneficial than 10lbs through stock manifolds. I am kinda bummed cause I am doing all this work to the truck over the next month after my mishap and I don't think I will be able to convince the wife to let me spend another 1k for the exhaust I want to go to. My stock manifolds with the the after market muffler I have now will get the job done but would really like to get some 1 7/8 headers. Dunno something about spending over 10k on a truck in a 6 month time frame seems to get to her when I ask to spend more :challenge: |
You guys have gotta learn that it's easier to beg for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission!! swingit
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Originally Posted by 62nalide
(Post 4944020)
My girl has me by the balls :( cant do nothing without her giving me an OK
Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71
(Post 4944022)
You guys have gotta learn that it's easier to beg for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission!! swingit
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Ask me how I got my ex-wife to pay for half of my blower/cam/rockers/etc.......... :jest:
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Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71
(Post 4944022)
You guys have gotta learn that it's easier to beg for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission!! swingit
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Originally Posted by 62nalide
(Post 4944020)
My girl has me by the balls :( cant do nothing without her giving me an OK
Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71
(Post 4944022)
You guys have gotta learn that it's easier to beg for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission!! swingit
Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71
(Post 4944032)
Ask me how I got my ex-wife to pay for half of my blower/cam/rockers/etc.......... :jest:
Originally Posted by black00chev
(Post 4944085)
Or just stay single and do whatever the FAWK you want!!! :troll:
I could buy lots more stuff for the truck but rather wait till I have cash in hand and not have to put it on a credit card or something like that |
Originally Posted by ak2007r6
(Post 4944108)
haha she is just reminding me of things I said I wanted to do. Trying to pay stuff off and reduce debt so trying to stick with that. :)
I could buy lots more stuff for the truck but rather wait till I have cash in hand and not have to put it on a credit card or something like that |
Originally Posted by 62nalide
(Post 4944215)
i hear you! but on the plus side when u wait for things a lil longer and once you have them oh boy thats a good feeling lol
I remember some single days though when I was big into motorcycles when it looked like the UPS guy was Santa.. I loved coming home from work to just a living room full of boxes.... |
Originally Posted by Vortec350ss
(Post 4943072)
The turbo's are much more efficient at making boost... theres no question there, but without spending an arm and a leg on a turbo kit they still use the stock manifold on one side... kinda whacky if you ask me. Just by looking at most of the kits I think there is a ton of power potential left in them... look at how much boost supercharged guys lose when they go to a great exhaust system... yet they are stil pushing as much if not MORE air through the engine.
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And it actually helps to have a slightly restrictive(not the best word) exhaust before the turbine. Keeps velosity up and helps with spool time due to the pressure difference before and after the turbine wheel.
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Originally Posted by FrostKing
(Post 4944249)
Turbo exhaust manifolds are not nearly as critical as supercharger manifolds because the turbo ones are pressurized. 20 psi exhaust pressure can squeeze a lot of gas through stock manifolds.
I'd be really curious to see just how much more air a TVS is pushing on a 6.0 at say 8# at 5k RPM compared to a similar turbo with stock manifold/log exhaust at the same boost level. I'm talking with the same heads, and a cam that is correctly "spec'd" for both. I know this is not because a TVS is 'better' at pushing 8# of boost, but its because so much more exhaust can escape that 8# of boost can really mean 2 totally different things there... outside of probably total air in the cylinder when it fires. Basically what I'm getting at is I think I'm realizing for a low boost aplication, like my LQ9, a supercharger might be a far superior answer to create great power using FI... I'm sure there is something I'm missing about a turbo set up that will even everything out here... and I really want to understand this. I think the bottom line is I may not have enough of an understanding of what makes a turbo set up great while I am much more familiar with a blower. Everythign I typed makes sense in my head, but I'd love to be proven wrong lol. |
I'll add this to the mix. I don't know who this is... but I have a feeling they are a member here.
Those are real impressive numbers on 10# in a cam only 5.3. Add a little displacement for a 6.0 and a 76mm turbo and that looks like a 600 RWHP dyno at only 10#. Pretty awesome. |
397.81 RW/HP 446 RW/TQ SAE Corrected.
LQ9, LS6 Cam, Mid Length Headers, Cats, Radix MP112, 3.4 Pulley, 42lb Injectors, Walbro 255lph in tank, EFI Live base tune (Black Bear). Hope to do a little better once I send back data logs plus I swapped out the crappy flowmaster 40 as well as some more mods to come. |
The flow 40 is probably hurting more than you think.
How much boost does that pulley get you? It can't be much. |
Originally Posted by Vortec350ss
(Post 4948280)
I'll add this to the mix. I don't know who this is... but I have a feeling they are a member here.
Those are real impressive numbers on 10# in a cam only 5.3. Add a little displacement for a 6.0 and a 76mm turbo and that looks like a 600 RWHP dyno at only 10#. Pretty awesome. |
Originally Posted by Vortec350ss
(Post 4943072)
Yea I understand that, but its definitely something worth noting. The turbo's are much more efficient at making boost... theres no question there, but without spending an arm and a leg on a turbo kit they still use the stock manifold on one side... kinda whacky if you ask me. Just by looking at most of the kits I think there is a ton of power potential left in them... look at how much boost supercharged guys lose when they go to a great exhaust system... yet they are stil pushing as much if not MORE air through the engine.
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4.8
Patrick g cam (spec'd for procharger), comp cam single valvsprings, stock heads, stock intake, stock tb, stock head bolts, stock mains and rod bolts. Pt 88 turbo 16 psi/20psi second pull Snow Performance methanol No NOS (hate it) 4l80 w/4400 circle D verter with circle D flexplate. Dynoed on 20's 295/40's Recently chipped piston #3 due to the stupid vacuum line melted from waste gate. On a Loaded dyno: 671rwhp/622rwtq @16 psi..........792rwhp/680rwtq @ 20 psi...... 16 psi pull 20 Psi pull |
Thing sounds like a damn jet takin off!!! Bad ass numbers too!
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Bet its laggy as shit on that 4.8! But dam its like the space shuttle when it lights off LOL... Awesome
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