went and looked at a 07 TBSS 2wd today
#11
The Jeep SRT-8 has a superior Benz 5-speed transmission that can handle all the torque of the 6.1L Hemi. The 4L70E is basically a 4-speed 700R4 derivative that was made to hold maybe 250HP in a 3500 lb. vehicle, max.
Four speeds with a 4.10 rear end and 30" tires = 2500 RPM cruising speeds on the highway which = extremely crappy mileage.
Four speeds with a 4.10 rear end and 30" tires = 2500 RPM cruising speeds on the highway which = extremely crappy mileage.
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#14
If you got the cash, an SRT 8 gets you more performance out of the box. They are about $10k more than a base 2WD TBSS though. If you are going to mod it, the TBSS is the way to go.
As far as mileage goes, either one will suck gas, and rarely, if ever, break 20 mpg. I wouldn't use that as a reason to go one way or the other.
-Geoff
As far as mileage goes, either one will suck gas, and rarely, if ever, break 20 mpg. I wouldn't use that as a reason to go one way or the other.
-Geoff
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Sounds like TBSS bought the wrong vehicle 
For me, it's awesome daily driver.
A bluetooth setup probably would be better, but I have no complaints about my Verizon setup. It's an extra line on your current account, but if you already have the Family plan it's little more than your paying now. For me it was less than $5 a month for the switch (single line to Family). Only confusion I saw when I got it started up was most Verizon stores don't know about it. But once you have the Verizon/On-Star toll free number it only takes a few minutes to setup.
My truck averages 15-16 around town and I've seen as good as 21mpg on a road trip. If your looking for gas mileage, this isn't the vehicle for you.
Having drove f-bodies for past couple years, there's plenty of storage space for me.

For me, it's awesome daily driver.
A bluetooth setup probably would be better, but I have no complaints about my Verizon setup. It's an extra line on your current account, but if you already have the Family plan it's little more than your paying now. For me it was less than $5 a month for the switch (single line to Family). Only confusion I saw when I got it started up was most Verizon stores don't know about it. But once you have the Verizon/On-Star toll free number it only takes a few minutes to setup.
My truck averages 15-16 around town and I've seen as good as 21mpg on a road trip. If your looking for gas mileage, this isn't the vehicle for you.
Having drove f-bodies for past couple years, there's plenty of storage space for me.
#16
Originally Posted by WILWAXU
Sounds like TBSS bought the wrong vehicle 
For me, it's awesome daily driver.
A bluetooth setup probably would be better, but I have no complaints about my Verizon setup. It's an extra line on your current account, but if you already have the Family plan it's little more than your paying now. For me it was less than $5 a month for the switch (single line to Family). Only confusion I saw when I got it started up was most Verizon stores don't know about it. But once you have the Verizon/On-Star toll free number it only takes a few minutes to setup.
My truck averages 15-16 around town and I've seen as good as 21mpg on a road trip. If your looking for gas mileage, this isn't the vehicle for you.
Having drove f-bodies for past couple years, there's plenty of storage space for me.

For me, it's awesome daily driver.
A bluetooth setup probably would be better, but I have no complaints about my Verizon setup. It's an extra line on your current account, but if you already have the Family plan it's little more than your paying now. For me it was less than $5 a month for the switch (single line to Family). Only confusion I saw when I got it started up was most Verizon stores don't know about it. But once you have the Verizon/On-Star toll free number it only takes a few minutes to setup.
My truck averages 15-16 around town and I've seen as good as 21mpg on a road trip. If your looking for gas mileage, this isn't the vehicle for you.
Having drove f-bodies for past couple years, there's plenty of storage space for me.
There are better ess-you's no doubt but the TBSS seems to be a nice compromise.
#17
I love my TB SS as a daily driver. Mileage is not the great, but I knew that before I bought it. The SRT8 is a great vehicle, but a higher sticker price, the fact you cannot tow more than 3,500-lbs and the aftermarket support (especially for tuning) is nowhere near what the LSX platform swayed me toward the TB SS.
#18
Originally Posted by WILWAXU
Sounds like TBSS bought the wrong vehicle 

Originally Posted by moregrip
just looking for a sporty, well powered, ess-you to hold a few 4-6' tables and misc boxes in the back while keeping them out of the elements.
There are better ess-you's no doubt but the TBSS seems to be a nice compromise.
There are better ess-you's no doubt but the TBSS seems to be a nice compromise.
The TB with the 5.3L does quite nicely (300/330 HP/TQ). The I-6 is nearly the same specs with an amazing, proven motor (291/277 HP/TQ). Of course, I don't have to mention the fact that the 5300 and 4200 run on 87 octane, versus 91-93 for the TBSS.
#19
Originally Posted by 03sierraslt
13-14mpg, thats it? That is one thing I like about the misses Jeep, even with the 5.7 it still gets 19.5-20.5 on the highway. Like 16 in town, unless you are beating it then like 11.
Does your Misses Jeep come with an Auto along with 4.10 gears and heavy *** 20 Inch wheels with a 9.5" rear that won't break??? These are the reason's it doesn't get Fantastic Gas mileage, but for what it is (A Performance SUV) it gets great gas mileage.
#20
Originally Posted by TBSS
Naw, just trying to give all the potential downsides to balance all the good things I knew everyone would say. The Avalanche really was a superior vehicle in every way except for power out of the box and the stock suspension setup. Easily taken care of with a couple of mods.
This is why I suggested the regular TB. If cost and money is no object, then of course, get the TBSS. But if you aren't going to mod or race, with all the TM programmed in all over the band and in between shifts, the TBSS is kind of a waste.
The TB with the 5.3L does quite nicely (300/330 HP/TQ). The I-6 is nearly the same specs with an amazing, proven motor (291/277 HP/TQ). Of course, I don't have to mention the fact that the 5300 and 4200 run on 87 octane, versus 91-93 for the TBSS.
This is why I suggested the regular TB. If cost and money is no object, then of course, get the TBSS. But if you aren't going to mod or race, with all the TM programmed in all over the band and in between shifts, the TBSS is kind of a waste.
The TB with the 5.3L does quite nicely (300/330 HP/TQ). The I-6 is nearly the same specs with an amazing, proven motor (291/277 HP/TQ). Of course, I don't have to mention the fact that the 5300 and 4200 run on 87 octane, versus 91-93 for the TBSS.
Regular TB doesn't appeal to me in the least, looks wise.
My biggest concerns are wheel protection and wireless/hands free communications, the wind noise was a good heads up and the cup holders do look like they'd be trouble...................






