LT4 & 8L90 in 2011 RCSB
#1
LT4 & 8L90 in 2011 RCSB
Hey guys,
Im putting a LT4 & 8L90 into my work truck. Currently my work truck has a cammed BTR stage 2 with 3/8 chromoly push rods and BTR dual valve springs. I have a 70mm Chinese turbo on it with a 3” IC and injectors. I’m running the stock flex fuel pump. Tuned with HPT. Dyno’d at 410 horse to the wheels at 5 psi.
I wanted to ask ask a few questions before I buy the drive train.
Obviously it would be cool as ****. A brand new LT4 in a RCSB 1500 2wd.
Now the question is, can I make it reliable. I drive about 40,000 miles a year. I know this Chinese turbo could start billowing smoke at any minute, or the cheap deka 80’s stop working and fry some pistons.
The drivetrain comes with 50,000/2yr warranty.
I bought the truck used last August for 17,000 with 22,000 Miles. If I put a precision 7075 and IC 1050’s with a solid intercooler and a 4L80 with a hd2 kid and converter I could probably make it last. But that’s a solid amount of time and effort. And would I get 50k / 2 yrs out of it?
The key here is reliability. I own my business and I need to run and do sales/service with my truck on a daily basis.
I will be adding about 1500-2000 lbs of weight to the stock truck. Maybe more...
ladder racks, tool boxes, ladders, parts, and towing a 14’ dump trailer loaded with 4 tons of scrap on a regular basis.
I need the power in order to tow to tow the trailer, my 2015 2500 6.0 could barely do it. I will be putting firestone air springs in the back and possibly converting to 8 lug. The 2015 2500 6.0 was a company vehicle from my peevious company and I gave it back. So my only option now is to convert my street truck to a work truck. The 27,000 for the LT4 drivetrain is a company write off. All in all I would be tied up for just under 50 grand.
The motor comes with a full rotating assembly with ac and FPCM, I just need a ZL1 fuel pump. The crate motor also doesn’t come with DOD so that’s a plus.
What hat do you guys think?
Im putting a LT4 & 8L90 into my work truck. Currently my work truck has a cammed BTR stage 2 with 3/8 chromoly push rods and BTR dual valve springs. I have a 70mm Chinese turbo on it with a 3” IC and injectors. I’m running the stock flex fuel pump. Tuned with HPT. Dyno’d at 410 horse to the wheels at 5 psi.
I wanted to ask ask a few questions before I buy the drive train.
Obviously it would be cool as ****. A brand new LT4 in a RCSB 1500 2wd.
Now the question is, can I make it reliable. I drive about 40,000 miles a year. I know this Chinese turbo could start billowing smoke at any minute, or the cheap deka 80’s stop working and fry some pistons.
The drivetrain comes with 50,000/2yr warranty.
I bought the truck used last August for 17,000 with 22,000 Miles. If I put a precision 7075 and IC 1050’s with a solid intercooler and a 4L80 with a hd2 kid and converter I could probably make it last. But that’s a solid amount of time and effort. And would I get 50k / 2 yrs out of it?
The key here is reliability. I own my business and I need to run and do sales/service with my truck on a daily basis.
I will be adding about 1500-2000 lbs of weight to the stock truck. Maybe more...
ladder racks, tool boxes, ladders, parts, and towing a 14’ dump trailer loaded with 4 tons of scrap on a regular basis.
I need the power in order to tow to tow the trailer, my 2015 2500 6.0 could barely do it. I will be putting firestone air springs in the back and possibly converting to 8 lug. The 2015 2500 6.0 was a company vehicle from my peevious company and I gave it back. So my only option now is to convert my street truck to a work truck. The 27,000 for the LT4 drivetrain is a company write off. All in all I would be tied up for just under 50 grand.
The motor comes with a full rotating assembly with ac and FPCM, I just need a ZL1 fuel pump. The crate motor also doesn’t come with DOD so that’s a plus.
What hat do you guys think?
Last edited by Worktrucklol; 06-05-2018 at 08:40 AM.
#2
TECH Junkie
It would definitely be very cool although it is a lot of coin. I'm in a similar situation as you, using my truck for AC service. The DI 5.3 was already making decent power but I just added a Whipple. Instant response from idle to redline. I carry 800-1000lbs on any given day and it does everything I want it to do completely stock with a tune by Sam. Made 442/471 but he turned the timing down for DD on 93. So 434/461 now. Just turned 40k yesterday with 26k since the Whipple. No issues except a vacuum leak once upon a time. Total investment with shipping and tune $6730 write off. Need fuel and cam to go much further but it works well as is. Its a work truck.
#3
It would definitely be very cool although it is a lot of coin. I'm in a similar situation as you, using my truck for AC service. The DI 5.3 was already making decent power but I just added a Whipple. Instant response from idle to redline. I carry 800-1000lbs on any given day and it does everything I want it to do completely stock with a tune by Sam. Made 442/471 but he turned the timing down for DD on 93. So 434/461 now. Just turned 40k yesterday with 26k since the Whipple. No issues except a vacuum leak once upon a time. Total investment with shipping and tune $6730 write off. Need fuel and cam to go much further but it works well as is. Its a work truck.
#4
TECH Junkie
The turbo 4l80 isn't going to have the off idle low end by any means either. Also just saw the new mid engine Vette is going to be some version of 8spd and they are talking 1k hp so it has got a future imo. I think it would be way way more fuel efficient than the 4l80!
#6
well here’s what I’ve ran into with a turbo work truck, you need weight(load on motor) if you have enough load on the truck it’ll spool up. My truck is a 1500 2wd. I take scrap metal from my business once a month (roughly 6,000 lbs) plus the weight of a 14k gvw dump trailer. I think dry you won’t notice much because you won’t be into boost at all unless going up a hill. That’s a major plus to me in itself alone, not having the truck downshift going up inclines, there’s a lot of hills up here in New England so it’s important to me to muscle up the hills with or without a load. My biggest concern is will the 1500 frame be strong enough to pull that kind of weight even after I fully do the suspension and motor/tranny to handle it..
#7
Some guys on YouTube got a new 1500 with the 5th gen ecotec 5.3 with the 8 speed. They did hill climbs while towing the max trailer weight rated for the 1500 and it ripped right up the hills better than dodge. So that was reassuring..
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#8
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One of the downfalls to this swap is wiring and communication to the rest of the stuff inside the vehicle. Basically none of the wiring in your 2011 will work with the newer engine and transmission. The whole can-bus system is different on the 2014+ trucks/car so the dash/bcm and what not won't talk with the GEN 5 controller.
#9
I was wondering if the BCM could communicate with the new ECU. If that’s all that’s all I’m going to run into for issues I would be super happy. Speartech is saying the ZL1 fuel pump is fine. Im aiming for keeping factory accessories for warranty issues.
#10
You may be within your limits for towing, but once you get upward of 80% of rated towing capacity on the half tons, it can get unnerving to drive them... It's not about the Go so much as the Stopping and control you have while driving.
Half ton short bed with a huge heavy trailer just doesn't seem that safe even with suspension upgrades. Maybe it can do it just fine, this is kind of a gray area I think, where not many people have done this. Sane thing to do is go with 2500HD platform, but this could be cool if it worked. It's a lot of money between here and there just to find out though.
Half ton short bed with a huge heavy trailer just doesn't seem that safe even with suspension upgrades. Maybe it can do it just fine, this is kind of a gray area I think, where not many people have done this. Sane thing to do is go with 2500HD platform, but this could be cool if it worked. It's a lot of money between here and there just to find out though.