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BigCountryx May 18, 2009 09:41 PM

Safe RPM before float
 
On a stock motor, particularly an LQ9. Stock cam, stock spring etc. Now I understand that shift points are determined by where the power falls off, but that's not the question. Just wondering what RPM the stock valvetrain get pushed past the limit. Does FI effect this any?

Mangled03gmc May 18, 2009 09:44 PM

6k should be fine on stock springs...

budhayes3 May 18, 2009 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mangled03gmc (Post 4208128)
6k should be fine on stock springs...

Yea, but that's about as high as I would go on the stock equipment...

Truckshop May 19, 2009 07:03 PM

put a good set of springs on it and the valvetrain will pull higher than the truck intake will go.

JoeGibbSilverado May 19, 2009 07:36 PM

my tow haul settings are at 6500, u guys are scaring me, lol

PathfinderJr May 19, 2009 10:13 PM

yeah, I was kinda wondering about springs too with the little 4.8. Since it likes to rev out more, I didn't know if better springs and pushrods (weren't LS1 guys having bent pushrod issues at 5k+ rpm?) would be just good insurance.

AKlowriderZ71 May 20, 2009 12:55 AM

Boost will make valve float more likely. You should be running out of cam at around 5800 rpm anyways, with your stock cam. Pick out a nice cam & spring kit and put it in. It really wakes things up. Don't forget hardened pushrods.

viciousknid May 20, 2009 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by JoeGibbSilverado (Post 4208896)
my tow haul settings are at 6500, u guys are scaring me, lol


Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71 (Post 4209236)
Boost will make valve float more likely. You should be running out of cam at around 5800 rpm anyways, with your stock cam. Pick out a nice cam & spring kit and put it in. It really wakes things up. Don't forget hardened pushrods.

Yup. Peak HP on the 6.0 is like 5600-5800 tops. So shifting at 6500 with stock cam/springs is definitely a waste and only a matter of time before you drop a valve. They've gotta be floating at those RPM's considering they aren't made for it.
When my 5.3 was stock I had the shift points at 6k. no reason to go over without a cam and springs. IMO

BigCountryx May 20, 2009 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by AKlowriderZ71 (Post 4209236)
Boost will make valve float more likely. You should be running out of cam at around 5800 rpm anyways, with your stock cam. Pick out a nice cam & spring kit and put it in. It really wakes things up. Don't forget hardened pushrods.

Think the 5800 rpm statement still holds true with a TVS 1900 added to the mix?

Spoolin May 20, 2009 11:19 AM

On turbo's the bigger concern is exhaust valve float rather than the intake valves. Better springs are important on a supercharger but you should be fine unless you pully down quite a bit.


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