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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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What are your over all Goals with the truck???
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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just so you know, I ran a small 206/212 cam and it ran like crap without a tune.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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settled on the 220R from Texas Speed, with a Yank "Truck Thruster Series 2600 Stall" converter. Sound about right?

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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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I would want more converter than that but its up to you. That cam would be better suited for a 3200 or looser.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Heat treating can fail for many reasons.
I think most cams and alike are not hard all the way through, more of a case hardening to still provide the hard wear resistant surface yet softer internally to provide toughness and some flexibility.
If the mating lifters have a harder surface the softer part will wear first. If there is not enough oil supply the affected area may overheat thus affecting the hardness of the surfaces rubbing together, the parts can effectively anneal themselves slightly and begin the failure and galling process.
Not enough Zinc in the oil will only exasperate this problem.
Is this what happened to your cam? Who knows. The parts all manufacturers use are heat treated in large lots and should be pretty uniform but that process can vary as well as the material specs of each cam leading to some failures in those lots of mass produced parts. Sooner or later a bad cam is gonna pop its head up.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kretty
What the hell causes that? Called the stealership and they said it was the hardening on the cam failing and it was eating the cam and lifter away.
Has this "hardning on the cam failed" been confirmed? Sounds kinda like a shot in the dark of a diagnosis over the phone. Or was it at the dealer when you called?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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My buddy works at a dealer and when i started my truck he told me to turn it off immediately. He says hes heard it before and knows exactly what it is. The hardening on the cam spidered and was squeaking every time it contacted the lifter.

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I would want more converter than that but its up to you. That cam would be better suited for a 3200 or looser.
Thats the converter Texas Speed recommended. They said a 3200 was good for the 228R. Im just flying by the seat of my pants here and i know im going about this *** backwards. But its what i gotta do.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kretty
My buddy works at a dealer and when i started my truck he told me to turn it off immediately. He says hes heard it before and knows exactly what it is. The hardening on the cam spidered and was squeaking every time it contacted the lifter.



Thats the converter Texas Speed recommended. They said a 3200 was good for the 228R. Im just flying by the seat of my pants here and i know im going about this *** backwards. But its what i gotta do.
Hey Kretty, I saw you post on one of my videos last week on youtube btw. It's a coincidence I found you on here lol.

I have some more videos, other than the one you posted on my Youtube channel of the TSP 220 cam. You'll like the tsp220 its a great off the shelf cam. Maybe the sound clips will get you a little more excited lol.


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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmchevyman
Hey Kretty, I saw you post on one of my videos last week on youtube btw. It's a coincidence I found you on here lol.

I have some more videos, other than the one you posted on my Youtube channel of the TSP 220 cam. You'll like the tsp220 its a great off the shelf cam. Maybe the sound clips will get you a little more excited lol.

Cammed 5.3L walkaround - YouTube

Drive by cammed truck exhaust - YouTube
It sounds awesome dude. What all do you have done to your truck? i know i have to upgrade exhaust for sure in the future, what TC are you running?
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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Yeah I would definitely recommend getting Long Tube headers for a single pattern cam.
If you are on a budget at least get a CircleD or FTI 3200rpm 278mm at minimum. I'd recommend a 9.5" or 10" 3400rpm though. Most guys that have been doing this for awhile will probably tell you go for a 3600RPM converter.
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