Any noticeable gains in MPG from anything you've tried? Headers?
#61
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You will want to verify if your have a real sensor or a virtual sensor through. Even though it's a E85 or flex fuel truck does not always mean it has a real sensor that is accurate.
The older GMT-900's that are flex fuel trucks all run what they call virtual sensors that use the fuel trims to determine alcohol content. It's not a very accurate way to read it and it is very slow to react to the changes unlike a real sensor that could figure it out in just a few minutes.
I always hear of people having issues when they try to blend fuels or run one tank of E85 then switch back to 93 octane, the virtual sensors will take forever to adjust the calibration back.
The older GMT-900's that are flex fuel trucks all run what they call virtual sensors that use the fuel trims to determine alcohol content. It's not a very accurate way to read it and it is very slow to react to the changes unlike a real sensor that could figure it out in just a few minutes.
I always hear of people having issues when they try to blend fuels or run one tank of E85 then switch back to 93 octane, the virtual sensors will take forever to adjust the calibration back.
#62
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#63
You will want to verify if your have a real sensor or a virtual sensor through. Even though it's a E85 or flex fuel truck does not always mean it has a real sensor that is accurate.
The older GMT-900's that are flex fuel trucks all run what they call virtual sensors that use the fuel trims to determine alcohol content. It's not a very accurate way to read it and it is very slow to react to the changes unlike a real sensor that could figure it out in just a few minutes.
I always hear of people having issues when they try to blend fuels or run one tank of E85 then switch back to 93 octane, the virtual sensors will take forever to adjust the calibration back.
The older GMT-900's that are flex fuel trucks all run what they call virtual sensors that use the fuel trims to determine alcohol content. It's not a very accurate way to read it and it is very slow to react to the changes unlike a real sensor that could figure it out in just a few minutes.
I always hear of people having issues when they try to blend fuels or run one tank of E85 then switch back to 93 octane, the virtual sensors will take forever to adjust the calibration back.
#65
Its funny because HP or whatever is wrong there... says that same virtual or whatever BS on my 17 HD too. But yep.. crawl under the truck and there sure is an alcohol sensor in there just like the 1500 series trucks. Although all the gas HD trucks have a sensor you can still get a half ton without e85 capability and I could see those being virtual and it's probably a labelling thing on the interfaces end at that point.
#70
Damn that's it.. badass
Thanks for the heads up and the info
I knew something was funny with the older flex fuel gm's. I've had a couple come in the shop with rich codes and found nothing wrong, except that they were in fact running rich. I reset the fuel adaptive tables and the problem goes away. I realized since it went away after resetting the adaptive tables that it was fueling for fuel that had high alcohol content, but didn't have fuel in the tank that had high alcohol content, so they were dumping extra fuel and they had a rich mixture due to that.
You will want to verify if your have a real sensor or a virtual sensor through. Even though it's a E85 or flex fuel truck does not always mean it has a real sensor that is accurate.
The older GMT-900's that are flex fuel trucks all run what they call virtual sensors that use the fuel trims to determine alcohol content. It's not a very accurate way to read it and it is very slow to react to the changes unlike a real sensor that could figure it out in just a few minutes.
I always hear of people having issues when they try to blend fuels or run one tank of E85 then switch back to 93 octane, the virtual sensors will take forever to adjust the calibration back.
The older GMT-900's that are flex fuel trucks all run what they call virtual sensors that use the fuel trims to determine alcohol content. It's not a very accurate way to read it and it is very slow to react to the changes unlike a real sensor that could figure it out in just a few minutes.
I always hear of people having issues when they try to blend fuels or run one tank of E85 then switch back to 93 octane, the virtual sensors will take forever to adjust the calibration back.
I knew something was funny with the older flex fuel gm's. I've had a couple come in the shop with rich codes and found nothing wrong, except that they were in fact running rich. I reset the fuel adaptive tables and the problem goes away. I realized since it went away after resetting the adaptive tables that it was fueling for fuel that had high alcohol content, but didn't have fuel in the tank that had high alcohol content, so they were dumping extra fuel and they had a rich mixture due to that.
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