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Old 01-06-2009, 10:08 PM
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I think somewhere around 05-06?? But could be wrong.
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I think they got rid of the sensor when they changed to the Gen IV engines.
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Wow, thank you all for the great information!



Originally Posted by Bo185
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E85 Flexible-Fuel Capability
The Vortec 5.3L (RPO L59) was the first flex-fuel V-8 for full-size sport-utility vehicles. The Gen IV 5.3L’s (LC9, LMG, and LMF), feature more sophisticated and robust E85 flex-fuel operation. E85 is a clean-burning alternative fuel made in the United States from homegrown corn and other crops, composed of 85 percent ethanol alcohol and 15 percent gasoline.

The intake and exhaust valve seat material was revised for improved high mileage durability on E85 fuel. Additionally, the intake valve material was also revised for compatibility with the new seats.

Hardware changes for flex-fuel operation are limited to the injectors. Because ethanol has fewer BTUs (less energy) than the same volume of gasoline, more fuel is required to produce the same horsepower at wide-open throttle. Flex fuel engines use unique injectors with a greater cone angle and higher maximum fuel-flow rate. The fuel rail matches the injectors, but it’s manufactured of the same stainless steel used for all Vortec V-8s.

The flex-fuel Vortec 5.3L doesn’t even require a special fuel sensor. The first flex-fuel engines used a light-reactive sensor to measure fuel composition from 100 percent gasoline to 85 percent ethanol. The Gen IV has a virtual sensor—software programmed in the E38 ECM with no separate physical sensor. Based on readings from the oxygen (O²) sensors, fuel level sensor and vehicle speed sensors, the ECM adjusts the length of time the fuel injectors open for the type of fuel used. Within a fuel miles after filling up, the E38 controller determines what fuel is powering the Vortec 5.3L and manages the engine accordingly.

E85 fuel provides an environmentally friendly companion or alternative to gasoline. It is biodegradable and doesn’t contaminate the water supply. Ethanol can be produced from various feed stocks, including corn and wheat stalks, forestry and agricultural waste, and even municipal waste.
So, If I understand this right then... I should be able to purchase the injectors and rails for a FlexFuel 5.3, install those in mine (I don't even have to change the tables in the PCM) and then it would be ready for E85?
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Originally Posted by outdooricon
Wow, thank you all for the great information!





So, If I understand this right then... I should be able to purchase the injectors and rails for a FlexFuel 5.3, install those in mine (I don't even have to change the tables in the PCM) and then it would be ready for E85?
You will probable need your tune changed to the E85 tune. All the tables are there, but some of the non FF tunes I've see don't have the E85 tables set to be active, and have the same values as the gas tables. It's not to difficult to setup.
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Originally Posted by outdooricon
Wow, thank you all for the great information!





So, If I understand this right then... I should be able to purchase the injectors and rails for a FlexFuel 5.3, install those in mine (I don't even have to change the tables in the PCM) and then it would be ready for E85?
no, it will not work like that. If you take a non-flex fuel vehicle and enable flex fuel in the PCM the vehicle freaks out. If it didn't come with flex fuel you're probably not going to be able to make it. You can run E85 but you have to run it all the time and not mix it. If you mix it you have to guess the composition and update the stoich table.
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but what size injectors do the flex fuel engines have
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32lbs iirc, regular 5.3 is like 26lb

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Old 01-13-2009, 08:42 PM
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the 09 6.2L engines are flex fuel, they probably have some big injectors!
Old 01-13-2009, 11:26 PM
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what is iirc and is that good for the truck
Old 01-13-2009, 11:38 PM
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lol sorry iirc=if i remember correctly


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