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Yelo 01-15-2006 01:17 PM

MAF says 310 grams/sec@5800rpm......
 
How does this correspond to what some of y'all 6.0 guys are seeing for NA MAF readings ??, I'm just curious to see how the LS1 heads/Shorty headers flow compared to whatever you guys are running....

moregrip 01-15-2006 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Yelo
How does this correspond to what some of y'all 6.0 guys are seeing for NA MAF readings ??, I'm just curious to see how the LS1 heads/Shorty headers flow compared to whatever you guys are running....

I'm pulling 53lbs @ 5600rpm

BBT 01-15-2006 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Yelo
How does this correspond to what some of y'all 6.0 guys are seeing for NA MAF readings ??, I'm just curious to see how the LS1 heads/Shorty headers flow compared to whatever you guys are running....

Thats really decent airflow.......My setup max's out at 283 g/sec with the mods in my sig :judge:

Yelo 01-15-2006 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by moregrip
I'm pulling 53lbs @ 5600rpm


That's because you're supercharged dipshit......and I'm STILL gonna hand you your ass NA :)

That compares to about 41lbs/min for mine......you don't happen to have yor NA flow numbers do you Devin ??

moregrip 01-15-2006 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Yelo
That's because you're supercharged dipshit......and I'm STILL gonna hand you your ass NA :)

That compares to about 41lbs/min for mine......you don't happen to have yor NA flow numbers do you Devin ??

No, sure don't bro.

oh yeah, I ain't getting any slower punk!

Yelo 01-15-2006 02:07 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!

I've at least gotta give you that.......it looks like it's gettin' about time for me to start working on those twins

Yelo 01-15-2006 10:38 PM

I just saw 328 grams/sec @ 5900rpm a little while ago coming to work.....

I've read a few times that on these trucks if you multiply MAF grams/sec X 1.1 it gets you a pretty close RWHP number.....can anyone back that up ???

mroegrip: If that above calc works out that would put me at around 360ish and you around 440hp at the tires ....do you have a dyno run to compare that too ???

damn...I may finally have to admit that you *might* be faster than me grip

moregrip 01-15-2006 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by Yelo
I just saw 328 grams/sec @ 5900rpm a little while ago coming to work.....

I've read a few times that on these trucks if you multiply MAF grams/sec X 1.1 it gets you a pretty close RWHP number.....can anyone back that up ???

mroegrip: If that above calc works out that would put me at around 360ish and you around 440hp at the tires ....do you have a dyno run to compare that too ???

damn...I may finally have to admit that you *might* be faster than me grip

Come into to the light, feel the light, know the light, see my tail lights, so let it be written, so let it be done :judge:

mwalls54 01-16-2006 07:16 AM

Right now i am pulling in the low 50s lbs per min. I also have 408 and big heads

hellbents10 01-16-2006 11:14 AM

338 g/s in Shawns 2500hd with a small cam (220/224 572/577), muffler, 160 stat and 22 degrees total with a 12.8:1 AFR.

These can be way off though if someone is messing around with the MAF table when tuning, seen it a few times.

Yelo 01-16-2006 12:00 PM

My MAF tables are stock so I'm pretty sure I'm actually seeing correct g/s

I'm running a 210º/218º .531/.531 114lsa Vinci Cam with 26º total timing and stock 14.7:1 AFR......

zippy 01-16-2006 01:24 PM

stock should be alot richer than that at wide open.

zippy 01-16-2006 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Yelo
I just saw 328 grams/sec @ 5900rpm a little while ago coming to work.....

I've read a few times that on these trucks if you multiply MAF grams/sec X 1.1 it gets you a pretty close RWHP number.....can anyone back that up ???

mroegrip: If that above calc works out that would put me at around 360ish and you around 440hp at the tires ....do you have a dyno run to compare that too ???

damn...I may finally have to admit that you *might* be faster than me grip


you have to compensate for how much the blower takes back out of that.

moregrip 01-16-2006 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by zippy
you have to compensate for how much the blower takes back out of that.

I'm figuring approx 400rwhp +/- using my 1/4 mile mph of 98.8 with a 5800lb raceweight.

Yelo 01-16-2006 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by zippy
stock should be alot richer than that at wide open.

Stoich is set @ 14.68:1, VE has been modified based on LT's.....other than that it's the stock AFR

XLR8NSS 01-16-2006 04:00 PM

At part throttle 14.68-14.7 is fine but, at wide open throttle 12.5-13:1 is about all you want to go for NA.

My stock LQ9 6.0L has pulled down 38lb/min in stock form. :eek2: That was a high reading. It routinely will hit 36-37lbs/min though and that is around 5400rpm is I remember correctly

For NA engines I think multiplying the maf lbs/min by 10.5 will give you a close estimate to engine output at the flywheel. It's been a while since I've messed with all that though but, that is what I remember being close.

Yelo 01-16-2006 04:13 PM

short of buying a wideband how can I get the AFR at WOT where I want it to be ???

If I use those calculations it looks to be around 430 at the crank and 340ish at the tires....pretty close to the other calculation

joshluther 01-16-2006 05:56 PM

Those calculations can't be very accurate. On a nice staedy line on the MAF at 6300rpm I logged 327.79 G/Sec = 360.56 Rwhp
43.26 Lb/min = 454.23 Fwhp

For a peak I found 341.14 G/sec = 375.25 rwhp
45.02 Lb/min = 472.71 Fwhp

The only things I have changed from my dyno pull of 333 rwhp are UD pulley and a different air intake. Oh and my intake air temps were about 40* cooler.

Yelo 01-16-2006 06:00 PM

There's no way it's gonna be 100% accurate.....but at least it's a good way to guesstimate

moregrip 01-16-2006 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Yelo
There's no way it's gonna be 100% accurate.....but at least it's a good way to guesstimate

agreed, i guesstimate your slower than me :jest:

joshluther 01-16-2006 06:47 PM

I found my log from my dyno pull

328.07G/sec = 360.8 @ 6260 rpm Using 1.1
Actual dyno hp = 333.1 @ 6260

TURBHOE 01-22-2006 10:55 AM

i've hit between 46 47 pounds


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