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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Guys I need some assistance.Last week I bought a 2003 1-ton cargo van for work.I wanted tilt cruise windows and locks with no glass in the side or rear doors.Unfortunately we couldnt find one in the U.S with a 4.10 and L/S like I wanted.I had to settle for 3.73s.I tow a heavy trailer and really need 4.10 to offset having the 6.0 liter.Big-blocks are no longer available in a van.Well I decided to buy it and swap to the deeper gear.I climbed under the van and lo and behold it has a Dana 70 .Well I called 3 local 4x4 shops to do the swap and they all told we it has a 14-bolt.I told them Dana is stamped on the diff cover and the pumpkin.They treated me like I was retarded and said they cant help me.I called the stealer and they can order it but want almost $700.00 for it.Does anyone know where I can get a ring&pinion for a Dana 70 that is more affordable.Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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a Dana 70 ??....I'm not in any way calling you retarded but GM has been using AAM (American Axle Manufacturing...aka "Corporate") rear axles exclusivly since around 1987....even the 1 tons are AAM 14 bolt full floaters

the Dana 70 diff cover looks like this...


and the AAM 14 bolt looks like this...


they are VERY similar
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks for the response.The pic you posted is similar to what I have other than mine has 12 bolts instead of 10.Its definitely not a 14-bolt.I was shocked when I saw Dana stamped in the pumpkin and on the diff cover.Ive had several 3/4 and 1 ton chevys and they all had a 14-bolt.The sticker on the axle tube says Dana 70S.I struck out at all aftermarket vendors so I went to the dealer.The service manager made a call and informed me that it is a Dana 70 hybrid that just came out in 03 3500 vans.He said GM wanted a stronger axle for the upcoming Duramax option.I used my discount but it was still $475.00(ouch).They said it could take up to 2 weeks to get it though.I hate paying that much but at least I confirmed Im not crazy.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 03:42 AM
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wow...a REAL D70 in a new truck...that's cool...and pretty much bulletproof

I've beat hard on D60's with deisels and big blocks before and those are pretty much unbreakable.....that D70 should last a LONG time behind ANYTHING you want to put under the hood of that van (you'll twist a driveshaft or spit a u-joint before you even get housing deflection with that thing !!)

BTW...is that coil-sprung or leaf-sprung....if it's leaf sprung I may be looking for one for a future swap
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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Leaf spring suspended.It is a very stout looking piece.I think the van axle is 3-inches wider than a pickup axle.I would post a pic if I knew how.
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