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Last Call 05-14-2008 05:46 PM

How strong is the 14 bolt 9.5"...
 
I have located an 05 Vmax 14 bolt 9.5" rear end. How strong is the G80 in that unit? What options are there for upgraded diffs?

From what I have read, they do not have the G86 like the TBSS guys have and the G80 may be the weak link.

Anyone???

nightrunner 05-14-2008 05:57 PM

yes the G80 is the weak link just swap out the G80 for a eaton LSD or a detroit trutrac and dont worry about it.

trever1t 05-14-2008 06:28 PM

I would think it'd be the same as any other 'G80' just swap a LSD in there and you're good to go!

BTW I might be interested in something off your 10-bolt

7845 05-14-2008 11:40 PM

G80 is just GMs way of saying limited slip. you can go back to mid 80s that i can think of the serial code is still G80

but to speak on the G80 of the SF 14 bolt its still a torque style weight like the 10bolts have. now you can upgrad to teh G86 the TBSS has which is actually a posi unit which uses springs and etc

Last Call 05-15-2008 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by 7845 (Post 3920252)
G80 is just GMs way of saying limited slip. you can go back to mid 80s that i can think of the serial code is still G80

but to speak on the G80 of the SF 14 bolt its still a torque style weight like the 10bolts have. now you can upgrad to teh G86 the TBSS has which is actually a posi unit which uses springs and etc

Is the G86 as good as aftermarket carriers?

dlstewart01 05-15-2008 12:25 PM

cars only came with limited slip. Trucks have the eaten locker. Works different than limited slip. The Truck G80 gov lock actually locks up when one wheel spins more than 100 rpm faster than the other. Unlocks over 20 mph.

The G86 was limited slip and only avalable in quadasteer. Not sure if it will work in other carriers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6A-YNw8ddE&NR=1

have a good one,

Don

7845 05-15-2008 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by dlstewart01 (Post 3920446)
cars only came with limited slip. Trucks have the eaten locker. Works different than limited slip. The Truck G80 gov lock actually locks up when one wheel spins more than 100 rpm faster than the other. Unlocks over 20 mph.

The G86 was limited slip and only avalable in quadasteer. Not sure if it will work in other carriers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6A-YNw8ddE&NR=1

have a good one,

Don

dont forget that a limited slip uses clutchs. the gov lok still uses clutches

the G86 in the TBSS has a spring type posi similar to those of the old days

quadsteer rearends are Dana 60s and wont work elsewhere

posted before video

Last Call 05-15-2008 01:47 PM

In other words, the G80 is crap.. right? LOL

The 10 bolt brake assembly should bolt right to the 14 bolt, correct?

InchUp 05-15-2008 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Last Call (Post 3920480)
In other words, the G80 is crap.. right? LOL

If the G80 was crap it wouldn't be in GM-made trucks. It's the right differential for a stock truck. Treat your truck like the average Joe and you'll see long life with the Gov Lock. Beat on it and throw a ton of power to the rear end and like all things mechanical, accelerated wear will occur. It's always open giving the best possible gas mileage, yet when traction is needed and one tire starts slipping the other side locks in via the cam ramps and pawl, as described very well in that Youtube video. I've linked many people to that video and it's the best explanation I can give. The Gov Lock is the economy mechanical locker to give the truck a broad spectrum of possibilities on and off road, so that the average Joe is content.

With that said, the G80 is often times referred to as the G80 Hand Grenade because it tries to engage the other axle shaft under hard acceleration and chips teeth off the pawl sending them into the differential and ring gear, literally destroying anything and everything in the pumpkin. Again, it wasn't designed for anything more than a stock truck so give it some slack, and just call up Randy's Ring and Pinion (ringpinion.com) and they'll hook you up with everything you need.


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