Duramax intercooler with side mount whipple
I've got a 2003 3/4 ton with a 6.0 in it and I have a sidemount whipple charger to put on it. As you know these superchargers didnt come with an intercooler so I was looking at getting one from a duramax and doing what I can to custom fab the piping needed. Anybody every try this or could anyone recommend another intercooler that would work better?
And I also have an SS front bumper on it so I was also looking for recommendations as to where to mount the inter cooler. The duramax one should be a direct bolt in with little fab work needed for mounting. I already have the marine injectors, electric fans and a water/meth kit ready to install whenever I get around to mounting the whipple. I've seen people using walboro 255 fuel pumps. Anybody have a part number for this or a link. I'm having trouble finding the exact one needed. |
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Search for a member here's posts, his screen name is Whippled 496. He attempted the duramax intercooler and didn't get favorable results. Just a FYI I have not seen anyone have good luck with this.
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Ive never done the swap so im goin off what i read..
but you gotta do something with a body lift? the intercooler fits with the dodomax cause their frames are diff or the factory body lift spaces it.. having the intercooler infront of you and a tape measure.. |
I think Whippled 496 also had cooling issues once he swapped to the duramax rad and fans also.
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Change the outlet direction of the whipple and fab up piping for a a/a intercooler.
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The intercooler will fit in a 3/4 ton but you need the Dmax radiator. It wouldn't keep 496 whipples big block cool but with some good efans a 6.0 should be no problem. I would try to use a lbz radiator though. They are bigger than the older ones.
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The problem with the ss front bumper is the cover will be shorter. The frame on the 3/4 and 1 tons are taller hence stronger. That's where the extra distance comes from for the intercooler and why a 1/2 needs a front body lift to fit the Intercooler from a Dmax. The stock hd bumper covers are 2" taller to fill this gap. And the front grill is different.
4" frame vs 6" frame rails. The hd does NOT have a factory body lift. Just a way bigger frame. |
Thanks for the replys so far guys. I read back on whippled496's posts and saw all the trouble he was having. I would think that my 6.0 would be alot easier to keep cool. Having already done the efan upgrade and loving the factory look of it, I might be inclined to go with an aftermarket intercooler if I have to change radiators at the same time.
Rethinking the situation after seeing the posts, I would think that mounting an aftermarket intercooler in the lower intake of the ss bumper and putting some electric fans the back side would help everything out by not blocking the original radiator and also by having a set of fans dedicated to the intercooler. I read some people concerned about the electric fan cycling times being based off the engine coolant temps instead of IAT which is what the concern is for the intercooler for the supercharger. What do you guys think about this logic? Thanks again guys. |
My A2A did just fine without fans for what it's worth.
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Originally Posted by 03sierraslt
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My A2A did just fine without fans for what it's worth.
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Ive used the big ebay FMIC's with success. See them on here frequently for centrifugal SC's and turbos
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The place I got mine is no longer in business, there are many options ranging from any of our site sponsors that sell intercoolers for Turbo's to ebay.
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im new here and i finally found someone with the same set up i have lol. i am woring on frmi my self. i have already modifiend the whipple fot the intercooler. i had some pipeing made so i can run the truck till i finish the panninf for the intercooler. i will post pics of my set up as soon as i figure out how to put pics.
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Originally Posted by obs6ohh
(Post 5047702)
im new here and i finally found someone with the same set up i have lol. i am woring on frmi my self. i have already modifiend the whipple fot the intercooler. i had some pipeing made so i can run the truck till i finish the panninf for the intercooler. i will post pics of my set up as soon as i figure out how to put pics.
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Originally Posted by 03sierraslt
(Post 5047721)
Welcome to the site, not trying to be mean but maybe you should type slower. I am not sure what you mean in a couple of your sentences.
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lol sorry lol
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Originally Posted by bowsman
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LOL He's just excited to find a great site like this. I was the same way when I first got on here and found people were so willing to help and share their expensive mistakes so I dont have to go through the same trial and error.
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lol ok heres my set up. its a lq9 with side mount 2.3 whipple with 2 shots of meth. hell fire rings gaped for boost. poreted 317s with tbss intake. custom ground boost came fbo. with a pt 3200 yank and a built 4l80e with a trutrac out back 411s narrowed with mossor axels and caltracs.
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Nice set up. Very similar to mine.
Be careful with your timing. Lq9 and 7-8 pounds of boost ( Based on the pulley I see) And no intercooler is not a good thing. The intercooler will help a lot. Specially in those spots where you are in low boost for long periods of time without meth. (Like towing or going up a hill) |
I also like the idea of the TBSS swap. The way you modded the whipple and not having to do a straight discharge to the manifold (and not using the whipple elbow that replaces the TB) does open up some options.
Next, find a way to upgrade the intake side of the whipple. I got a custom intake made that also fit a 90mm TB. Made a huge difference. The area leading to the rotors is a huge restriction on the side mounts. |
Originally Posted by AgFormula02
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Nice set up. Very similar to mine.
Be careful with your timing. Lq9 and 7-8 pounds of boost ( Based on the pulley I see) And no intercooler is not a good thing. The intercooler will help a lot. Specially in those spots where you are in low boost for long periods of time without meth. (Like towing or going up a hill) |
Biggest issue I run into is going up into the mountains and making low boost. (1-3 pounds)
IATs go up and stay up as long as you are going up hill. I pick up some random knock there. I have 4 pulleys ranging from 4 1/8 down to 2 15/16ths. |
lol ok heres my set up. its a lq9 with side mount 2.3 whipple with 2 shots of meth. hell fire rings gaped for boost. poreted 317s with tbss intake. custom ground boost came fbo. with a pt 3200 yank and a built 4l80e with a trutrac out back 411s narrowed with mossor axels and caltracs.
You do the fab work on the discharge side of the whipple and intake adapter or did you have that done? I'd be interested in paying someone to fab up those pieces for me with these nice pictures to use as a model. |
no i got someone to do it. a guy name zach from daily gring fabrictions. if u google it he has also on the inlet side of the whipple also
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http://tbssowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51652
Zack is also who made the custom intake for my whipple. Made a huge difference. |
Originally Posted by AgFormula02
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Modded Whipple intake pics 78 to 90mm intake - TBSSOWNERS.com Forums - The #1 TrailblazerSS Dedicated Owners Forum
Zack is also who made the custom intake for my whipple. Made a huge difference. |
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