Silverado Long Bars?
03-22-2017, 01:33 AM
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I don't think you see a lot of this type stuff on the GM trucks just cause they simply don't need it. I had an elaborate plan to make some for mine and was able to get working so good without them, I just tossed the idea.
2006 rcsb, 4/6 drop along with some very simple leafspring type suspension tuning tricks (basically make sure nothing is in a bind, pinion angle is correct and clamp the leafs in front of the axle) and relocated shocks.........60' in the 1.50's at over 4500 lbs....no bars/caltracs or traction aids of that kind.
2006 rcsb, 4/6 drop along with some very simple leafspring type suspension tuning tricks (basically make sure nothing is in a bind, pinion angle is correct and clamp the leafs in front of the axle) and relocated shocks.........60' in the 1.50's at over 4500 lbs....no bars/caltracs or traction aids of that kind.
03-22-2017, 07:57 AM
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See, that's what I don't get... a spring is an arch, you compress it and it HAS to get longer. That's why there is a shackle on the back of it. If the front of the spring is fixed and you attach a solid bar to the axle, how can it get longer??? Wouldn't it just get into a bind and not compress??? Making for a very rough ride??
03-22-2017, 08:40 AM
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^^^ Truth!
I made a set for my RCSB and did not like them. With the 4" Hotchkis springs they actually made traction at the track and on the street worse with along with a stiffer ride. I did not get a chance to try them at the track with the stock springs and flip kit, but they made the ride horrible. I am much happier with a VAS/Assassin type front bracket as it can be backed off for suspension articulation and a good ride on the street.
Here is a good thread on the topic from a few years back...
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g-bars-486835/
I made a set for my RCSB and did not like them. With the 4" Hotchkis springs they actually made traction at the track and on the street worse with along with a stiffer ride. I did not get a chance to try them at the track with the stock springs and flip kit, but they made the ride horrible. I am much happier with a VAS/Assassin type front bracket as it can be backed off for suspension articulation and a good ride on the street.
Here is a good thread on the topic from a few years back...
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g-bars-486835/
03-22-2017, 05:17 PM
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2006 rcsb, 4/6 drop along with some very simple leafspring type suspension tuning tricks (basically make sure nothing is in a bind, pinion angle is correct and clamp the leafs in front of the axle) and relocated shocks.........60' in the 1.50's at over 4500 lbs....no bars/caltracs or traction aids of that kind.
See, that's what I don't get... a spring is an arch, you compress it and it HAS to get longer. That's why there is a shackle on the back of it. If the front of the spring is fixed and you attach a solid bar to the axle, how can it get longer??? Wouldn't it just get into a bind and not compress??? Making for a very rough ride??
^^^ Truth!
I made a set for my RCSB and did not like them. With the 4" Hotchkis springs they actually made traction at the track and on the street worse with along with a stiffer ride. I did not get a chance to try them at the track with the stock springs and flip kit, but they made the ride horrible. I am meuch happier with a VAS/Assassin type front bracket as it can be backed off for suspension articulation and a good ride on the street.
Here is a good thread on the topic from a few years back...
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g-bars-486835/
I made a set for my RCSB and did not like them. With the 4" Hotchkis springs they actually made traction at the track and on the street worse with along with a stiffer ride. I did not get a chance to try them at the track with the stock springs and flip kit, but they made the ride horrible. I am meuch happier with a VAS/Assassin type front bracket as it can be backed off for suspension articulation and a good ride on the street.
Here is a good thread on the topic from a few years back...
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g-bars-486835/
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03-22-2017, 05:59 PM
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See, that's what I don't get... a spring is an arch, you compress it and it HAS to get longer. That's why there is a shackle on the back of it. If the front of the spring is fixed and you attach a solid bar to the axle, how can it get longer??? Wouldn't it just get into a bind and not compress??? Making for a very rough ride??
03-22-2017, 07:57 PM
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Same here. Just rocking stock leafs and drag shocks?
Maybe I'm just a DA and can't figure them out but I never could make them work and now that I'm boosted I can see it simply compounding the problem. I also tried CE Slide-a-Links several years ago with no luck as well. Both unload the suspension right after launch.
A lot of the heavier YellowBullet guys have run into some of this problem as well and made the switch to Assassins with better luck from what I've read. I just don't see how Caltracs can work properly on our heavy trucks with the center point so far away from their mounting.
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Maybe I'm just a DA and can't figure them out but I never could make them work and now that I'm boosted I can see it simply compounding the problem. I also tried CE Slide-a-Links several years ago with no luck as well. Both unload the suspension right after launch.
A lot of the heavier YellowBullet guys have run into some of this problem as well and made the switch to Assassins with better luck from what I've read. I just don't see how Caltracs can work properly on our heavy trucks with the center point so far away from their mounting.
RyanR
